Originally posted by deathslash
fun fact. Logan and half of a team of x-men got wrecked by a much weaker version of danny.
If they got wrecked, then how come IF has... lost? 😛
Those showings against teams are nothing new. Wolverine has them. Spider-Man has them. Batman. Karnak, even. It's the ninja rule all over again. More opponents you face, the better you're going to perform...
Originally posted by StiltmanFTWso you're saying that the more people that rand faces, the better he'll do? Well I guess it's a good thing that he's fighting more than one person here.
If they got wrecked, then how come IF has... lost? 😛Those showings against teams are nothing new. Wolverine has them. Spider-Man has them. Batman. Karnak, even. It's the ninja rule all over again. More opponents you face, the better you're going to perform...
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
He can take hits like that.Even Elektra doesn't suck in that department - it took multiple hits from Skrullossus to knock her out.
Big difference between taking a hit that sends you flying, taking a hit when you have nowhere to go (Like your back to the street or a wall), and taking a flurry (As Panther did), though.
Think the difference between Hulk slapping Logan away, and what he did to him in World War Hulk.
Originally posted by cdtm
Big difference between taking a hit that sends you flying, taking a hit when you have nowhere to go (Like your back to the street or a wall), and taking a flurry (As Panther did), though.Think the difference between Hulk slapping Logan away, and what he did to him in World War Hulk.
Same with stabbing. Rand is not the Hulk, he ain't gonna survive a dozen stabs...
... or a single cutting-in-half swipe 😛
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Same with stabbing. Rand is not the Hulk, he ain't gonna survive a dozen stabs...... or a single cutting-in-half swipe 😛
Ha ha, true enough. If Namor can't shake it off, Rand sure isn't.
Wonder what would happen if an Iron Fist intercepted a claw? Nothing? Claw through Fist?
Originally posted by Zack M
What is Logan's record against Shang-Chi and Iron Fist? And no fights that last one panel or anything. A clear cut winner.
Wolverine beat IF in a sparring match in New Avengers. One on one.
No claws, no IF. Just hth.
There was also that IF vs. X-men fight; Danny tossed X-Men around, eventually got beaten by them, though.
Shang got beaten by BC Wolverine who wasn't even using his claws till the very end. Oh, and Shang started with a cheapshot.
Another "fight" they had was in Wolverine: First Class. Logan was looking for some tips on how to control himself against Sabretooth, whose mindgames were pissing him off. Nothing more than sparrings against Shang, in which Wolverine had a purely defensive role. Granted, Chi looked much better here than against BC Logan.
Originally posted by Zack M
What is Logan's record against Shang-Chi and Iron Fist? And no fights that last one panel or anything. A clear cut winner.
Fwiw, both Shang and Danny have pretty decent showings against Gorgon.
Plus, Danny managed to beat Mr. X's mind reading trick a lot quicker then Logan did. Although, Mr. X is kind of a jobber against anyone else BUT Logan.
Originally posted by cdtm
The sparring match also happened before the fight, chronologically speaking. But since the fight was written first, of course Shang had no idea who Logan was. 🙂
It can be easily explained that he couldn't recognize Logan, since his appearance drastically changed because of the further mutation after adamantium was removed.
But honestly, Van Lente could've avoided all the confusion just by using some different martial arts master in First Class. Like Master Izo 😎 Would've been pretty cool, actually.