Muslim Organizations raise money for Black churches

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Muslim Organizations raise money for Black churches

Three Muslim groups have raised over £65,000 to rebuild three churches that were destroyed and damaged following the Charleston shooting, which killed nine people in the U.S.
A number of fires broke out at several majority-black churches in July following the massacre of nine parishioners at the historical Emanuel African Methodist Episcopal Church in Charleston.
At least five predominantly black southern churches were burned to the ground in Tennessee, Georgia, North Carolina, and South Carolina, three of which were started by arsonists.
The Muslim Anti-Racism Collaborative, the Arab-American Association of New York and Ummah Wide showed their solidarity with the black community following the tragic events and launched a fundraiser for them.
Launched jointly in the summer, the ‘Respond With Love’ campaign started off with the aim of raising $10,000 but they exceeded that target within hours.

Read more: http://metro.co.uk/2015/11/23/muslims-raise-66000-to-rebuild-three-black-churches-following-charleston-shooting-5521559/#ixzz3t34EQiu4

Thoughts?

And Would Christians do the same for Mosques?

Re: Muslim Organizations raise money for Black churches

Originally posted by carthage
Thoughts?

Good! It's a very positive gesture.


And Would Christians do the same for Mosques?

Well, depends on the Christians of course. I'm pretty sure some churches I know would be down for that, while others wouldn't dream of it. I bet in the future, these Christian churches would be willing to chip in if it came up 🙂

well that's a nice gesture... but one can't help but think that if they want to reach a hand out to christians maybe they should donate some money to the christian churches in saudi arabia... oh wait there are no christian churches in saudi arabia because "there shall be no two religions in arabia"

Originally posted by red g jacks
well that's a nice gesture... but one can't help but think that if they want to reach a hand out to christians maybe they should donate some money to the christian churches in saudi arabia... oh wait there are no christian churches in saudi arabia because "there shall be no two religions in arabia"

Come on, man, now you're just trolling.

Why should American Muslim organisations not support their fellow Americans? How does Saudi Arabia factor into this at all?

Originally posted by red g jacks
well that's a nice gesture... but one can't help but think that if they want to reach a hand out to christians maybe they should donate some money to the christian churches in saudi arabia... oh wait there are no christian churches in saudi arabia because "there shall be no two religions in arabia"

Worthless post.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Come on, man, now you're just trolling.

Why should American Muslim organisations not support their fellow Americans? How does Saudi Arabia factor into this at all?

nah it's fine for them to do so, i was just being drunkenly cynical. now that i am sober i can see this is probably a useful PR campaign on behalf of the american muslims (i actually thought the groups weren't american when i made that post, since the currency in the article was british).

the way i was thinking about it, it reminded me of when sayyid qutb came to the states and was outraged at the examples of american racism that he encountered against american blacks

he then went back to egypt and proceeded to espouse the kind of islamic extremism that paved the ideological way for osama & co

so i guess it's not so much a problem with american muslims taking an interest in american society that prompted me to make that post... it's the failure of muslims worldwide to either be self-critical or process criticism well. but i will admit it is a bit off topic so to try to tie it in... i see this campaign as a statement more on racism than on reaching out to christians. and muslims actually don't have such a terrible track record with racism... see the sayyid qutb example above. but they do have a bad track record with really tolerating other religions... and it's great that they manage to do so in countries where they are the minority, it would be nice to see them apply that tolerant attitude to the birthplace of islam, the country which they are compelled to visit on a pilgramage, the country whose culture is so thoroughly embedded in their religion that any copy of their holy book which is not printed in this country's language is not considered as authoritative, etc.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Worthless post.
good post.

So even as someone who is not a fan of the church I have to ask if this topic was meant to be about Muslims raising money or was it also meant to sort of get a jab in at Christians?

So the blacks and the muslims are in it together. Can't say I'm surprised LOL

Originally posted by Tzeentch
So the blacks and the muslims are in it together. Can't say I'm surprised LOL

Made me think of this:

YouTube video

Originally posted by Surtur
So even as someone who is not a fan of the church I have to ask if this topic was meant to be about Muslims raising money or was it also meant to sort of get a jab in at Christians?
well i do agree with q99 with regard to that question, in the way the question was posed: "would christians do the same for mosques?" i would say that yes, liberal christians in places like ny or cali would do so. just like liberal muslims in NY are against southern racism. once again... nothing shocking here.. and honestly nothing to do with the two religions in question but more to do with the political climate(s) in which they exist.

the churches that wouldn't do this sort of thing mostly exist in the culturally conservative christian portions of america. so i think that comparing cosmopolitan NY muslims to our own backward hillfolk is a bit skewed.... since if you go back to islamic the countries of origin, where their own conservatives exist, they're not nearly so tolerant.

It does happen as well, surprise, surprise.

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/08/10/13221317-funds-pour-in-to-replace-missouri-mosque-destroyed-by-fire

which might be why the muslims in NY figured to make this gesture... they are looking for good will cause they are nervous about islamaphobia. which is fair enough. but also somewhat self-interested... rather than just charity for charity's sake

Originally posted by red g jacks
which might be why the muslims in NY figured to make this gesture... they are looking for good will cause they are nervous about islamaphobia. which is fair enough. but also somewhat self-interested... rather than just charity for charity's sake

If we go down this route though there is no charity for charity's sake, really. Everyone has a self-serving reason to do what they do.

now who's the cynic?

either way my only point was i sensed the OP might have implied the muslims were perhaps more willing to help christians because they're more charitable. where as i'm saying they are more willing to reach out to christians because they are more vulnerable. basically operating from a position of weakness.

Originally posted by red g jacks
now who's the cynic?

We can be cynics together.

no homo

That's a bit disappointing.

nah but thinking about it again i do think i was being too negative about this one... i didn't realize the mosque burning thing was happening... it makes sense to show solidarity against white arsonists i guess.

it does feel like there's gonna be a showdown, to me, at some point in this country. the fact that we have borderline nazis, black power divas, islamic clerics, christian fundamentalists... all living in one country. this place is a freak show.

I pretty much thought it was a given that nobody truly gives to charity just for the sake of charity. Just something that you eventually realize, sort of like how Santa isn't real.

i don't necessarily agree. some people do give out of compassion. probably just harder to find examples of that the higher the dollar amount is.

like i see a difference between giving a homeless guy 10 bucks purely out of empathy for his situation and giving a homeless guy 10 bucks while expecting that this might be reciprocated at some point. and i know people who would just give a homeless guy money for no other reason than to help them.