Muslim Organizations raise money for Black churches

Started by Surtur5 pages

Ah but you can still get something: it makes you feel good about yourself.

Originally posted by Surtur
Ah but you can still get something: it makes you feel good about yourself.
yea but why does it make you feel good about yourself? because you did something altruistic. you have to look at the source of that reward system if you're going to take that angle.

Re: Muslim Organizations raise money for Black churches

Originally posted by carthage
Thoughts?

And Would Christians do the same for Mosques?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2295149/Christians-roll-welcome-Muslims-having-pray-wind-rain-mosque-small.html

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Originally posted by red g jacks
nah but thinking about it again i do think i was being too negative about this one... i didn't realize the mosque burning thing was happening... it makes sense to show solidarity against white arsonists i guess.

it does feel like there's gonna be a showdown, to me, at some point in this country. the fact that we have borderline nazis, black power divas, islamic clerics, christian fundamentalists... all living in one country. this place is a freak show.

I hope in at least some of the areas, it's a last-gasp thing. Think of the 60s, when anti-black violence was at it's peak- people responded to the progress with violence, but then once people got used to the new state of affairs, violence pettered down.

Things are at their worst when those types feel like they're losing, and it's often a matter of outlasting/guarding against the violence rather than a big confrontation.

This is very generous of these Muslims. Most in that religion would do no such thing, since all non-Muslims are considered infidels. Nevertheless, kudos to these Muslims. I wish all were as caring and considerate.

Originally posted by Tattoos N Scars
This is very generous of these Muslims. Most in that religion would do no such thing, since all non-Muslims are considered infidels. Nevertheless, kudos to these Muslims. I wish all were as caring and considerate.

Just so you know, Christians and Jews are considered fellow 'people of the book,' (i.e. it's recognized they worship the same God, if in different ways) and there's often provisions for living side by side with them in Muslim countries. Normally with some disadvantages to Muslims, but they do give acknowledgement, and that's in actual places where the religion has huge power.

Originally posted by Q99
I hope in at least some of the areas, it's a last-gasp thing. Think of the 60s, when anti-black violence was at it's peak- people responded to the progress with violence, but then once people got used to the new state of affairs, violence pettered down.
was anti black violence at its peak in the 60's? i thought that things were even worse in past eras.

Things are at their worst when those types feel like they're losing, and it's often a matter of outlasting/guarding against the violence rather than a big confrontation.
to me though it seems like if anything, race relations had been steadily improving in this country for a while... only recently has this pattern started to seem to go in the opposite direction. that is why i usually dissent from the liberal PC agenda these days... it seems like at this point it's escalating tensions rather than alleviating them... the idea that this is a temporary phase that can be waited out is nothing more than conjecture

Re: Re: Muslim Organizations raise money for Black churches

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2295149/Christians-roll-welcome-Muslims-having-pray-wind-rain-mosque-small.html

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Op asked, here is the answer.

Yes👆

Originally posted by Q99
Just so you know, Christians and Jews are considered fellow 'people of the book,' (i.e. it's recognized they worship the same God, if in different ways) and there's often provisions for living side by side with them in Muslim countries. Normally with some disadvantages to Muslims, but they do give acknowledgement, and that's in actual places where the religion has huge power.
yay for muslim tolerance... christians and jews can live, you guys just have to pay your dhimmi. unfortunately, apostates aren't so lucky.

also, while we're nitpicking islamic doctrine... "infidel" is a christian term

to muslims, you're kafir.

Re: Re: Re: Muslim Organizations raise money for Black churches

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Op asked, here is the answer.

Yes👆

protip: when you actually /thread a thread, you won't have to type /thread

Originally posted by Q99
Just so you know, Christians and Jews are considered fellow 'people of the book,' (i.e. it's recognized they worship the same God, if in different ways) and there's often provisions for living side by side with them in Muslim countries. Normally with some disadvantages to Muslims, but they do give acknowledgement, and that's in actual places where the religion has huge power.

That's incorrect according to fundamental Christian beliefs. Islam denies Christ was the Messiah. They do not accept the New Testament as Scriptural truth, so Islam can not consider Christianity as fellow 'people of the book'. Sure, Islam recognizes Old Testament patriarchs as forefathers of their own faith, but that does not equate Allah with Jehova. The Quran is too fundamentally different from the Bible to even draw adequate comparisons. No Jews, as far as I know, would even consider Allah to be the Old Testament Jehovah.

Re: Re: Muslim Organizations raise money for Black churches

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2295149/Christians-roll-welcome-Muslims-having-pray-wind-rain-mosque-small.html

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👆

Originally posted by Tattoos N Scars
That's incorrect according to fundamental Christian beliefs. Islam denies Christ was the Messiah. They do not accept the New Testament as Scriptural truth, so Islam can not consider Christianity as fellow 'people of the book'. Sure, Islam recognizes Old Testament patriarchs as forefathers of their own faith, but that does not equate Allah with Jehova. The Quran is too fundamentally different from the Bible to even draw adequate comparisons. No Jews, as far as I know, would even consider Allah to be the Old Testament Jehovah.

Yeah, I've posted about this in religion forum several times before. Anyone who thinks Muslims and Christians share the same God is a fool. Christian God is a 3-in1 God (The Father, the Son, and Holy spirit). Muslims rejected the divinity of Christ. That's an undeniable fact no matter how hard the PC liberal crowd tries to deny it.

Originally posted by Star428
Yeah, I've posted about this in religion forum several times before. Anyone who thinks Muslims and Christians share the same God is a fool. Christian God is a 3-in1 God (The Father, the Son, and Holy spirit). Muslims rejected the divinity of Christ. That's an undeniable fact no matter how hard the PC liberal crowd tries to deny it.

Exactly!

Originally posted by Star428
Yeah, I've posted about this in religion forum several times before. Anyone who thinks Muslims and Christians share the same God is a fool. Christian God is a 3-in1 God (The Father, the Son, and Holy spirit). Muslims rejected the divinity of Christ. That's an undeniable fact no matter how hard the PC liberal crowd tries to deny it.

But the same goes for Jews.

Originally posted by Tattoos N Scars
That's incorrect according to fundamental Christian beliefs.

You are mistaking non-christians as people who give a sh_t about christian beliefs 131

Originally posted by Bardock42
But the same goes for Jews.

Not all Jews reject Christ as the Messiah. Sadly, most do though. Regardless, Judaism and Christianity are not quite the same religion anyway so I'm not sure what your point is.

Edit: Oh yeah, it's propheseid in the Bible that Jews will come to accept Christ as the Messiah again sometime during the end times before He returns and that God will restore His relationship with them.

Originally posted by Star428
Not all Jews reject Christ as the Messiah. Sadly, most do though. Regardless, Judaism and Christianity are not quite the same religion anyway so I'm not sure what your point is.

Edit: Oh yeah, it's propheseid in the Bible that Jews will come to accept Christ as the Messiah again sometime during the end times before He returns and that God will restore His relationship with them.

My point is that obviously there are different beliefs within these Religions, but ultimately Judaism, Islam and Christianity are related through the God they worship. i.e. both Islam and Christianity are an off-shoot of Judaism.

Originally posted by Bardock42
My point is that obviously there are different beliefs within these Religions, but ultimately Judaism, Islam and Christianity are related through the God they worship. i.e. both Islam and Christianity are an off-shoot of Judaism.

Perhaps, but if you're trying to say in a roundabout way that the Muslim God and the Christian One are the same then you're dead wrong.

Well, from my POV, as an atheist, they are not the same, in that they believe different things. Like the Jewish God and the Christian one aren't one and the same either.