Originally posted by RadZoaThis is the best chance Surfer has. DBZ characters are very blunt in how they operate.
Yeah, God Tier characters in Dragon Ball verse have established themselves as being well above Herald levelBUT
They don't have sh8t for versatility. I'd need evidence that Beerus could withstand matter manipulation or being attacked psionically.
However, unfortunately for Surfer, he is a Marvel character. Marvel characters don't get to use their speed against characters they logically would be able to. He wouldn't be fast enough to do it (I'm not sure how fast Beerus is though, FTL for sure, but I don't know by how much).
Originally posted by NemeBro
How can you say that with a straight face?Surfer was nearly killed by a Thanos beatdown. Beerus hits considerably harder than Thanos.
See, sans the hypocrite statements from the DB fron this is also the worst argument I can imagine.
Surfer vs Beerus
Beerus wins (a claim, we need proof)
Argument for Beerus winning against Surfer is the beatdown he got from Thanos because Beerus hits harder than Thanos (a differen't claim that is supposed to be now a fact? wtf).
You are trying to proof something with a claim about something else entirely. You can't simple pretend that it's a fact thet Beerus hits harder than Thanos, this is a differen't debate alltogether and lacks the proof. This logical fallacy is quite common among the arguments for the DB front and Carver does it always with Hulk too.
Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Bro you can't run around saying DBS can't beat Galactus, and then say they can't beat Silver Surfer, you are not being fair at all.God tiers>herald tiers.
I am fair and objective, sure no one is free from some bias, but not as much as most DB fans have.
Trans tier > God Tier =< Herald Tier. If you ask me.
Originally posted by Henry_Pym
Frieza can survive in a vacuum, he can also survive as just a torso... Your point? Do you think Vegeta can also survive without half of his body?
Goku Finger>>>>>Frieza durability. Piccolo can survive his body being crumbled into little pieces (minus his head). Could he survive planet Namek exploding on him whIle at a weakened state? This doesn't include the fact that Super Saiyan Vegeta survived attacks that would outright kill Frieza, probably turn him to dust. Think about all of this for a second. It all boils down to durability. Frieza was DURABLE enough to survive said attack. Loki head was chopped off and he was still alive. I feel pretty got darn safe at saying he can NOT survive a planet exploding on him. That has NOTHING to do with durability. Anyone with common sense knows this. Super Saiyan 1 Finger>>>>>>Frieza durability. Now again, who are these big guns you are referencing?
Originally posted by carver9where was Vegeta's body then? He literally glows in the dark and a Vacuum isn't an instant kill.
Goku Finger>>>>>Frieza durability. Piccolo can survive his body being crumbled into little pieces (minus his head). Could he survive planet Namek exploding on him whIle at a weakened state? This doesn't include the fact that Super Saiyan Vegeta survived attacks that would outright kill Frieza, probably turn him to dust. Think about all of this for a second. It all boils down to durability. Frieza was DURABLE enough to survive said attack. Loki head was chopped off and he was still alive. I feel pretty got darn safe at saying he can NOT survive a planet exploding on him. That has NOTHING to do with durability. Anyone with common sense knows this. Super Saiyan 1 Finger>>>>>>Frieza durability. Now again, who are these big guns you are referencing?