Thor vs Hulk

Started by Adam Grimes17 pages

Originally posted by quanchi112
Yes, it does.

Hulk looked superior at the time of the fight the fighter jet got involved. Hulk is the powerhouse of the team that can sustain more damage than Thor. Hulk wins. He's just too much for Thor in the films. It's close but Hulks the big gun here.

How does Tony preparing to the possibility of Hulk getting out of control compare to a unexpected encounter with someone Tony didn't even know existed/didn't know was going to be there?

For all we know IM could very well have a Thorbuster in case Thor went rogue. That wouldn't change anything here.

All based off of one fight we've already discussed to death. Gotcha.

Originally posted by Adam Grimes
How does Tony preparing to the possibility of Hulk getting out of control compare to a unexpected encounter with someone Tony didn't even know existed/didn't know was going to be there?

For all we know IM could very well have a Thorbuster in case Thor went rogue. That wouldn't change anything here.

All based off of one fight we've already discussed to death. Gotcha.

The fact Hulk was shredding a superior ironman who could reform is the point.

Speculative nonsense.

And statements making it clear the Hulk is the powerhouse of the crew. Thor can match up due to skill and agility but the Hulk can simply take it and get stronger in the fight the longer it goes on. It favors him.

Your points are nonsense. Thor was wasting an amped Tony and crushing his armor easily.

The point went over your head, how am I not surprised DD? Debater up.

What statements? Lol. By feats Thor is more powerful by a good margin.

Originally posted by Adam Grimes
Your points are nonsense. Thor was wasting an amped Tony and crushing his armor easily.

The point went over your head, how am I not surprised DD? Debater up.

What statements? Lol. By feats Thor is more powerful by a good margin.

We know the armor wasn't personally created for a bigger threat and don't know the durability was amped in any fashion.

Untrue.

Hulk is the heavy hitter. Ironman to Loki states we have a Hulk. He's the cleanup hitter.

Originally posted by FrothByte
So you'd prefer to make up different scenarios rather than just take the scene as it is? You can get hurt enough that you're temporarily unable to defend yourself without getting knocked out you know. Thor could have gotten the wind knocked out of him.

Only because you tried to make excuses and dismiss what was a pretty clear cut scene, Thor helps destroy floating island and along with the debris falls into the ocean with his body fully limp. Anyone not biased would come to the conclusion Thor was ko'd, the onus is on you to prove he wasn't when all evidence points to the opposite.

Yes Thor shook his head for about a second before he got kicked. I concede that he did look like he was clearing cobwebs. But not quite as much as Hulk when he got hit with Mjolnir. Hulk was leaning back and clearly groggy, Thor was standing decently upright and shaking his head.

It was virtually identical to Hulk helicarrier scene except Thor had a tree holding him up, he couldn't recover in time to defend the flying kick. That was regular pre-amped Iron Man. If Hulk was hurt/stunned in that scene then so was Thor.

And yes, Hulk does tank repulsor blasts better than Thor. IMO, I actually consider Hulk more durable than Thor, at least as far as pain is concerned. It's only when talking about KO's that I consider Thor more durable, and this is based off feats. Thor seems to get hurt more easily but Hulk gets knocked out more easily.

Based of what feats exactly? If Hulk punched an unsuspecting Thor full power in the temple he would more than likely be ko'd.

Originally posted by quanchi112
We know the armor wasn't personally created for a bigger threat and don't know the durability was amped in any fashion.

Untrue.

Hulk is the heavy hitter. Ironman to Loki states we have a Hulk. He's the cleanup hitter.

True, but he was still more powerful. And the HB is just an armor on top of his normal armor. If Thor was able to easily crush Tony's normal armor's metal it stands to reason that just applying more force would do the trick for the Hulkbuster.

Completely true or you're just playing dumb.

In that same token: Ultron, created by Tony and Bruce, singled out Thor as the one Avenger he had to take on by himself. And that's more recent. 👆

Originally posted by Adam Grimes
True, but he was still more powerful. And the HB is just an armor on top of his normal armor. If Thor was able to easily crush Tony's normal armor's metal it stands to reason that just applying more force would do the trick for the Hulkbuster.

Completely true or you're just playing dumb.

In that same token: Ultron, created by Tony and Bruce, singled out Thor as the one Avenger he had to take on by himself. And that's more recent. 👆

Before Thor was ko'd while fighting back and I dint see him taking the attacks the Hulk did in that scene.

Prove it.

Was Hulk around ? Did he reference Thor as the heavy hitter ?

Originally posted by quanchi112
Before Thor was ko'd while fighting back and I dint see him taking the attacks the Hulk did in that scene.

Prove it.

Was Hulk around ? Did he reference Thor as the heavy hitter ?

What?

My point is that your stance 'IM made a special suit to fight the Hulk but didn't do the same for Thor therefore Hulk is butturrr' is... not very brilliant, as Tony didn't know He was going to fight Thor that day after the loki attack. So you can't say for sure He wouldn't have done the same. That's how flawed your comparison is, DD.

Hulk was busy taking on Ultron's minions.

Originally posted by Adam Grimes
What?

My point is that your stance 'IM made a special suit to fight the Hulk but didn't do the same for Thor therefore Hulk is butturrr' is... not very brilliant, as Tony didn't know He was going to fight Thor that day after the loki attack. So you can't say for sure He wouldn't have done the same. That's how flawed your comparison is, DD.

Hulk was busy taking on Ultron's minions.

Suggesting Thor could do so before being ko'd by Ironman is another matter altogether.

He already made statements alluding to the idea Hulk is the heaviest hitter not Thor so yes it does since the suit was created after Intel on both.

So no direct implication by Ultron. Exactly as I thought.

I agree.

Sure, the fact that Hulk is the most likely to go on rampages didn't have anything to do.

What happened in the movie is what really matters, DD.

Originally posted by The Sorrow
Only because you tried to make excuses and dismiss what was a pretty clear cut scene, Thor helps destroy floating island and along with the debris falls into the ocean with his body fully limp. Anyone not biased would come to the conclusion Thor was ko'd, the onus is on you to prove he wasn't when all evidence points to the opposite.

It was virtually identical to Hulk helicarrier scene except Thor had a tree holding him up, he couldn't recover in time to defend the flying kick. That was regular pre-amped Iron Man. If Hulk was hurt/stunned in that scene then so was Thor.

Based of what feats exactly? If Hulk punched an unsuspecting Thor full power in the temple he would more than likely be ko'd.

So you just assumed Thor got KO'd without any proof of him actually getting KO'd. Because you believe that there's no other possibility to falling limp other than getting KO'd. Got it. Let's just agree to disagree.

Virtually identical to the Hulk scene? Thor had at most 1 second before he got kicked by IM. Hulk had quite a few seconds to gather himself and resume his attack because Thor didn't follow up his attack. Only a blind man would call them identical.

Hulk has punched an unsuspecting Thor, TWICE. Both times Thor was not knocked out. The 2nd time he was punched you can argue it wasn't full power, but there's nothing to show that the first sucker punch wasn't at full power.

Originally posted by Adam Grimes
I agree.

Sure, the fact that Hulk is the most likely to go on rampages didn't have anything to do.

What happened in the movie is what really matters, DD.

Hulk is the heavy hitter regardless.

Yes, and hulk punched him off screen in one scene and had the better of him in another. I agree.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Hulk is the heavy hitter regardless.

Yes, and hulk punched him off screen in one scene and had the better of him in another. I agree.

Who was sent to destroy the city at the end of AOU?

The first is... yay? and the latter is your flawed opinion. So I think everything that had to be said has been said by now.

Originally posted by FrothByte
So you just assumed Thor got KO'd without any proof of him actually getting KO'd. Because you believe that there's no other possibility to falling limp other than getting KO'd. Got it. Let's just agree to disagree.

Falling roughly 30,000 ft, hitting the ocean and sinking without having moved a muscle, no I'd call that common sense and blatantly obvious Thor was knocked out. If you want to ignore evidence and make up your own conclusions that make little sense then that's up to you, whatever helps you sleep at night. It still doesn't make you any less wrong.

Virtually identical to the Hulk scene? Thor had at most 1 second before he got kicked by IM. Hulk had quite a few seconds to gather himself and resume his attack because Thor didn't follow up his attack. Only a blind man would call them identical.

I did say almost. Hulk recovered in one or two seconds after he got up. Very little difference really. At least you admit Iron Man clearly hurt Thor in that scene even before his amp. Both were somewhat stunned by the respective attacks.

Hulk has punched an unsuspecting Thor, TWICE. Both times Thor was not knocked out. The 2nd time he was punched you can argue it wasn't full power, but there's nothing to show that the first sucker punch wasn't at full power.

You mean the bro fist? That was a casual jab and it sent Thor flying, where was the other suckerpunch? Hulk was cheapshotted by Thor as he was attacking Black Widow and took less damage than Thor did lol.

Cheapshotted? Thor only tackled him iirc.

Originally posted by Adam Grimes
Who was sent to destroy the city at the end of AOU?

The first is... yay? and the latter is your flawed opinion. So I think everything that had to be said has been said by now.

What does that have to do with the point I made ?

Untrue, you're biased and unable to form a coherent argument.

Originally posted by The Sorrow

You mean the bro fist? That was a casual jab and it sent Thor flying, where was the other suckerpunch? Hulk was cheapshotted by Thor as he was attacking Black Widow and took less damage than Thor did lol.

I mean Thor getting punched while he was trying to talk down Hulk.

Originally posted by quanchi112
What does that have to do with the point I made ?

Untrue, you're biased and unable to form a coherent argument.

Lol.

😂

Originally posted by Adam Grimes
Lol.
I win.