Originally posted by Adam GrimesYou already said you agree with me so it's trolling.
It was 'obvious', yet you still haven't proved it. Lol.Also, what was your point with the whole IM thing? Tony still knocked Hulk out. Another red herring I guess.
Due to hulk looking away which has nothing to do with Thor since iron man called out his best armor for him.
Originally posted by quanchi112Only to a degree. I didn't know you were so binary.
You already said you agree with me so it's trolling.Due to hulk looking away which has nothing to do with Thor since iron man called out his best armor for him.
How does that help your case? The armor didn't even exist back then.
Originally posted by ShadowFyre
I think it's hilarious that both Thor's offensive and durability feats surpass Hulk's by a wide margin and thats not even debatable. Thor can dish out more damage and has withstood explosions that dwarf the building collapse and Tony's HB punches.
Originally posted by The Sorrow
Hulk has withstood more as well (Abomination). Thor also has lower lows and may have survived but was ko'd by the city explosion. People bring up this feat as if Hulk would've died or something. Even Iron Man survived.
I'd like you to provide proof that Thor was KO'd. I don't remember any scene showing he was KO'd. The blast before the amp was where Thor just backflips from the shot. Or maybe I'm remembering this wrong.
Originally posted by The Sorrow
We saw that his repulsors were capable of hurting Thor somewhat when he initially blasts him into the ground and afterwards into a tree prior to the amp. His blast after the amp did seem to knock Thor away more forcefully though.
They're capable of knocking Thor back and away. Not sure about hurting him though. After all, he took one to the face and seemed more irritated by it that hurt. Then when IM blasts Thor right after the amp, Thor just backflips from it.
Originally posted by FrothByte
They're capable of knocking Thor back and away. Not sure about hurting him though. After all, he took one to the face and seemed more irritated by it that hurt. Then when IM blasts Thor right after the amp, Thor just backflips from it.
That blast to the face was much smaller than the ones that sent Thor flying. It was likely much less powerful and used as a mere distraction rather than an attack.
Originally posted by FrothByte
I'd like you to provide proof that Thor was KO'd. I don't remember any scene showing he was KO'd. The blast before the amp was where Thor just backflips from the shot. Or maybe I'm remembering this wrong.
They're capable of knocking Thor back and away. Not sure about hurting him though. After all, he took one to the face and seemed more irritated by it that hurt. Then when IM blasts Thor right after the amp, Thor just backflips from it.
Originally posted by The Sorrow
You mean besides falling limp into the ocean?He certainly didn't no sell them and the blasts gave him pause indicating they caused some degree of pain, but it was clearly an amount he could comfortably withstand. As Jugg explained the blast to the face that "irritated" Thor seemed to be more of a distraction so Thor would stop crushing his armour.
If he was knocked out when he fell into the ocean then he should have drowned. Unless we're thinking Thor can survive without breathing for an extended period of time, which is a discussion for another day. In any case, falling limp does not equal knocked out.
As for IM vs. Thor, I just rewatched the clip. IM only blasted Thor 3 times. The first time Thor was unprepared for it and it knocked him back against the tree. We don't know how much it hurt him because it was immediately followed by a kick that sent him through the tree. What we know is he got back up without looking like he was in pain.
The 2nd blast knocked Thor back and he easily back flipped out of it. And this was already after the amp. So while it did knock him back it also didn't look to have hurt him as he was immediately able to recover from it.
The 3rd blast was to the face, and we all know how Thor took that.
Originally posted by FrothByte
If he was knocked out when he fell into the ocean then he should have drowned. Unless we're thinking Thor can survive without breathing for an extended period of time, which is a discussion for another day. In any case, falling limp does not equal knocked out.
As for IM vs. Thor, I just rewatched the clip. IM only blasted Thor 3 times. The first time Thor was unprepared for it and it knocked him back against the tree. We don't know how much it hurt him because it was immediately followed by a kick that sent him through the tree. What we know is he got back up seemingly without any pain or difficulty.The 2nd blast knocked Thor back and he easily back flipped out of it. And this was already after the amp. So while it did knock him back it also didn't look to have hurt him.
The 3rd blast was to the face, and we all know how Thor took that.
Originally posted by FrothByte
Meh. Which hurts more: A finger poke to the eye at point blank range delivered at quarter strength or a full forced punch to the torso?
How about a finger poke to the forehead? Or the cheek? Or the temple? It doesn't seem to hit him in the eyeball.
So let's do it this way: Which hurts more: A tap that turns your head a bit or a hit that sends you flying as if you were struck by a vehicle?
Originally posted by quanchi112That doesn't help your stance at all tbh.
Well he knew he needed the best armor he had against the Hulk with more to be able to call because Hulk started trashing it.
Also, regarding the repulsor blast argument, Thor must be around 220 lbs, I would be disappointed if Tony couldn't knock back someone that weight. It doesn't mean it hurt him, because nothing in that scene suggested Thor sustained any damage whatsoever.
Originally posted by Adam GrimesYes, it does.
That doesn't help your stance at all tbh.Also, regarding the repulsor blast argument, Thor must be around 220 lbs, I would be disappointed if Tony couldn't knock back someone that weight. It doesn't mean it hurt him, because nothing in that scene suggested Thor sustained any damage.
Hulk looked superior at the time of the fight the fighter jet got involved. Hulk is the powerhouse of the team that can sustain more damage than Thor. Hulk wins. He's just too much for Thor in the films. It's close but Hulks the big gun here.
Originally posted by The Sorrow
Or he was saved by another Avenger, or he woke up in time to save himself. You're right though, maybe Thor allowed himself to fall 30,000 ft into the ocean despite the fact he can fly because he fancied a swim. Makes perfect sense.It looked to me like the initial attack when he first crash landed in the forest was after a repulsor blast but it could be interpreted differently. Well Thor certainly didn't take the repulsor blasts like Hulk did who literally ran through a full powered one. When Thor was knocked against the tree you see him shaking his head not too dissimilar from Hulks reaction to his hammer strike so he clearly felt it.
So you'd prefer to make up different scenarios rather than just take the scene as it is? You can get hurt enough that you're temporarily unable to defend yourself without getting knocked out you know. Thor could have gotten the wind knocked out of him.
Yes Thor shook his head for about a second before he got kicked. I concede that he did look like he was clearing cobwebs. But not quite as much as Hulk when he got hit with Mjolnir. Hulk was leaning back and clearly groggy, Thor was standing decently upright and shaking his head.
And yes, Hulk does tank repulsor blasts better than Thor. IMO, I actually consider Hulk more durable than Thor, at least as far as pain is concerned. It's only when talking about KO's that I consider Thor more durable, and this is based off feats. Thor seems to get hurt more easily but Hulk gets knocked out more easily.