Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
SHOOTERS NAME: Syed Farook****ING TERRORIST
He's a terrorist and so is she.
Syed Rezwan Farook and Tashfeen Malik
"Police say Farook, 28, and Malik, 27, are either married or in a relationship. The Council on American Islamic Relations, a Muslim advocacy group, said Farook has been married for two years -- but wouldn't confirm whether Malik was the wife's name."
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As expected on social media, the origin of the name Syed and the ethnic-sounding Farook surname is causing a wide amount of comments on Twitter about the suspect’s reported name. As a result, multiple reports about Farook potentially shooting at a holiday party in a California conference room in the Inland Regional Center, as reported by NBC News, has caused confusion. The unresolved situation has various reports saying Syed might have initially arrived at the gathering and got into some sort of altercation. Other reports say Farook came prepared and dressed for battle, so these details seem to be conflicting.
As reported by Heavy, Syed may have indeed attended the holiday party, but Farook reportedly left angrily and returned later.
Syed might have left the party, reports the New York Times, with witnesses saying Farook likely returned with Syed’s face covered — and the other gunman’s face covered, potentially Farook’s brother. The voice of Syed, however, sounded like Farook, said the witness.
“Investigators believe there were three gunmen and one of them had worked at the facility and recently had a dispute with fellow employees, according to law enforcement officials. A witness has told police that although the gunmen had their faces covered, one of them sounded and appeared very similar to an employee who had left the facility earlier in the day.”
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The media is currently waffling over calling the military-style shooting with long guns and AR15s or AK-47 guns and IEDs and explosives a workplace violence event or a terrorism event. The shooting rampage took the lives of at least 14 people on Wednesday, December 2. What’s unusual is that a woman purportedly joined the Farook brothers in the shooting incident."
Of coarse they are because they are bunch of ****in liars.
Originally posted by Time-ImmemorialI wonder if she even had a say in the matter according to their religions teachings. It's obvious they weren't both clinically mentally ill. That's BS if anyone suggests it. They terrorized people after making plans to do it.
Him and his wife did it, Radical Islamic Terrorism.
Now lets see how prejudice works....
I know nothing about the killer except what I've found here on this thread.... Well it seems that his name is Farooq and his wife helped him. I'm assuming he and his wife were killing people for religious reasons. His name and the picture I saw make me think that their religion was Islam.
Now forgive me if you are offended but that's my analysis based off nothing but prejudice, as I've verified no information about the suspects anywhere but KMC.
Now to finish this experiment I'm going to fact check and see how many of my prejudiced beliefs will be proven wrong. If they are right naturally my bias will strengthen through no fault of my own. I wouldn't mind being wrong so that I'd be less certain the next time a guy named Farook guns down random people.
As of right now this just seems like another example of terrorism in the name Islam.
It was made right here.
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=620445&pagenumber=7
Anyways, I am just betting this gets turned into workplace violence by Obama and the media, even though, his wife, a radical muslim, did not work there, and a third shooter still to be identified. Also this was pre meditated. They were armed to the teeth. Good luck getting anyone with half a brain to believe it though, but hey thats 50% of country by voting records.
Lets call this exactly what it is :
This was a conspiracy of terrorism conducted by radical muslims.
Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
It was made right here.
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=620445&pagenumber=7Anyways, I am just betting this gets turned into workplace violence by Obama and the media, even though, his wife, a radical muslim, did not work there, and a third shooter still to be identified. Also this was pre meditated. They were armed to the teeth. Good luck getting anyone with half a brain to believe it though, but hey thats 50% of country by voting records.
Lets call this exactly what it is :
[b]This was a conspiracy of terrorism conducted by radical muslims.
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You could definitely be right. I guess we'll see when more is uncovered. The target being the Christmas party of his employers doesn't really explain what the goal of said terrorism would be, so maybe there's further information to be had.
Lets go by just the facts we know
A conspiracy is defined as: a secret plan by a group to do something unlawful or harmful.
Two possibly three Muslims who were killers: Check
The wife did not work there: Check
Armed to the teeth and pre meditation: Check
This was a conspiracy of terrorism conducted by radical muslims.
Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Lets go by just the facts we knowA conspiracy is defined as: a secret plan by a group to do something unlawful or harmful.
Two possibly three Muslims who were killers: Check
The wife did not work there: Check
Armed to the teeth and pre meditation: Check
This was a conspiracy of terrorism conducted by radical muslims.
Well, the one thing that we haven't established is the "terrorism" aspect. We don't know whether they were doing it for political reasons and what political reasons.
It was definitely a conspiracy to shoot people conducted by people who are Muslims.
Planned Parenthood is a very common target for white ring terrorists together with the ramblings about baby parts and the shooters anti-Obama stance, made this a very likely conclusion and pretty clear what the political desire was.
With this it is unclear whether it was an act of terrorism, and while it's perfectly possible, I totally agree with you there, even if it was, we don't quite know what the political desire was. Was it just to induce fear in the populace, perhaps for Religious reasons? Was it to get stricter or less strict public health legislation? It's just unclear at this point.
We are talking about someone that was married with a kid.
This was ideological.
There is no evidence of workplace conflict, he was a supervisor, he was integrated.
There is only one faith that deals with this type of homicidal risk from devotion to a faith.
This is Islamic Terrorism.
None of the mass killers we have seen in the past have been closely related to any faith in which would make them go out and do this.
The questions we should be asking is why woman involved, how does she get involved, is she involved because she is submissive.
The man was a maniac and made his wife follow him and now they left behind a child because of ideology.
This is the way it is in Iraq and Syria...we know this exists, and we just saw it in America.
House was "IED Manufacturing Facility"
Bombs attached to remote control cars, pipe bombs found inside the house. The house had been boobytrapped.
The couple had just returned from maternity leave. She was a pharmacist.
They had go pro cameras everywhere.
He recently returned from Saudi Arabia separately from his wife in April.
This is terrorism.
http://nypost.com/2015/12/02/shooting-reported-in-california/
Authorities were investigating terror links after a government worker and his wife shot up his San Bernardino, Calif., office party Wednesday, killing 14 people.
Photo: AP
Syed Farook, 28, a devout Muslim, stormed out of the festivities and later returned with his newlywed wife, Tashfeen Malik, 27. Both donned dark, tactical gear and masks while toting assault rifles and handguns, police said.
Photo: Reuters
The murderous duo sprayed bullets inside a conference room, slaughtering colleagues who earlier this year had thrown a shower for their new baby.
The SUV transporting the suspected gunmen.Photo: Reuters
In addition to the dead, 17 were seriously wounded.
No motive was immediately determined, but the Joint Terrorism Task Force was investigating and the city’s police chief declared early Thursday, “We have not ruled out terrorism.”
“This was not a casual workplace argument,” one law-enforcement source told The Post. “It’s a well-planned and thought-out attack.”
The killers sped off in a black SUV from the Inland Regional Center, a state-run facility for developmental-disability services.
Hours later, cops went to Farook’s home in nearby Redlands, where the couple fled in the SUV. Officers eventually cornered the Yukon Denali on a quiet San Bernardino street and riddled it with bullets during a shootout that left Farook and Malik dead as blood pooled in the road.
Authorities said that the killers had thought through the massacre before heading to the facility at about 11 a.m.
“Preliminary information indicates that these were people that came prepared, that they were dressed and equipped in a way to indicate that they were prepared,” San Bernardino Police Chief Jarrod Burguan said.
“And they were armed with long guns, not handguns.”
He later added, “They came in with a purpose — they came in with an intent.,”
Farook, born in the United States met Malik while on a recent trip to her native Saudi Arabia, the LA Times said.
Why are we so caught arguing over whether this is terrorism or not. This is a horrible tragedy. Let the people whose job it is to investigate determine whether this was an isolated couple or if they are part of a larger ring of possible culprits.
Also TI I don't like the implications I keep reading in your posts. It's very clear that you keep contributing the fact they are muslim as a massive point in this talk. To the point where you are basically using muslim as a negative descriptor in general. Like being Muslim is bad thing. If that is not the case I am sorry but that definitely seems to be what you are implying with your posts.
Originally posted by Time-ImmemorialIm sorry but this comment
Like I care what you think, they were radical muslim terrorists.I never said anything of the sort, that you are claiming.
End of story.
Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
We are talking about someone that was married with a kid.This was ideological.
There is no evidence of workplace conflict, he was a supervisor, he was integrated.
There is only one faith that deals with this type of homicidal risk from devotion to a faith.
This is Islamic Terrorism.
None of the mass killers we have seen in the past have been closely related to any faith in which would make them go out and do this.
The questions we should be asking is why woman involved, how does she get involved, is she involved because she is submissive.
The man was a maniac and made his wife follow him and now they left behind a child because of ideology.
This is the way it is in Iraq and Syria...we know this exists, and we just saw it in America.
Seems very heavy handed in its implications that being Muslim or the Muslim faith is a bad thing. Basically you single it out as saying no other faith based view could possibly produce mass shooters like Islam does. Which is blatantly untrue. There are many killers with leanings to other Faith's like Christianity for example.
