Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
You can find any problem in Africa, and then somehow make that relevant in America, long gap to do that.Guess what though. Just like you say radical islam does not represent all of islam, radical "christians" in Africa don't represent Christians in America.
So that wraps up that.
Yet Obama or Hillary still won't even call it "radical Islam".
Originally posted by Time-ImmemorialSo your statement of Muslims being the only faith to produce murderous terrorists only applies if it happens in America. That seems a bit self serving but fine.
You can find any problem in Africa, and then somehow make that relevant in America, long gap to do that.Guess what though. Just like you say radical islam does not represent all of islam, radical "christians" in Africa don't represent Christians in America.
So that wraps up that.
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/02/15/yes-there-are-christian-terrorists.html
This article does a good job of listing attacks by Christians that have killed people and some have taken place on American soil.
And I do agree with your last statement. My problem is that you don't seem to believe your last statement. You use terms like Muslim to mean something bad in a general sense.
Africa is a 5th-6th world continent, they are living in the stone age, are we really applying the same standards there to the US and rest of the world?
From your own article
"However, with both ISIS and these Christian terrorists, I know that their actions are not based on the tenets of their respective faiths but on their own political agenda."
And you believe and agree with this statement?
Originally posted by Time-ImmemorialWow so you're saying because they are an improvised area of the world that atrocities they commit in the name of their religions don't count?
Africa is a 5th-6th world continent, they are living in the stone age, are we really applying the same standards there to the US and rest of the world?
EDIT: I believe we need to look at the context of the situation these attacks are taking place in. But yeah I mostly agree with that statement. People abuse religion to obtain power through fear and hatred just like they do the same with nationality, race, or other characteristics that define one group from another.
Originally posted by Time-ImmemorialFine I can only assume what you are saying is that because they are in the "Stone Age" in Africa the violent acts committed there in the name of Christianity don't represent true Christians such as those found in America.
Thats the exact opposite of what I said.Good day sir.
That still sounds pretty bad to me as a statement.
As to the topic. As far as we know this horrible act has been committed by a couple that identifies as muslim. That it was needless and these people seemed to be packing serious gear. We need to know how they procured this stuff and whether they really are working with anyone else and if there is a bigger picture problem here.
All things we need to wait to figure out. It does seem odd that this would be the end result of a massive plan to attack America by a large terrorists group. You never know though.
Originally posted by Newjak
Fine I can only assume what you are saying is that because they are in the "Stone Age" in Africa the violent acts committed there in the name of Christianity don't represent true Christians such as those found in America.That still sounds pretty bad to me as a statement.
As to the topic. As far as we know this horrible act has been committed by a couple that identifies as muslim. That it was needless and these people seemed to be packing serious gear. We need to know how the procured and whether they really are working with anyone else and if there is a bigger picture problem here.
All things we need to wait to figure out. It does seem odd that this would be the end result of a massive plan to attack America by a large terrorists group. You never know though.
Do the acts of the stone agers of ISIS in Iraq represent all muslims in America?
Originally posted by Time-ImmemorialThey do not represent all muslims in the world. Just like African Christians Terrorists do not represent all Christians. I'm glad you are finally starting to see that.
Do the acts of the stone agers of ISIS in Iraq represent all muslims in America?
My problem with your statement was the elitism that is coming from it. Basically it seems like you were treating Africans as sub human because they are improvised third worlders. Like you're labeling all Africans as savages who don't matter because they are primitive. It's not the religious part I find to be a bad.
Originally posted by Newjak
They do not represent all muslims in the world. Just like African Christians Terrorists do not represent all Christians. I'm glad you are finally starting to see that.My problem with your statement was the elitism that is coming from it. Basically it seems like you were treating Africans as sub human because they are improvised third worlders. Like you're labeling all Africans as savages who don't matter because they are primitive. It's not the religious part I find to be a bad.
So what was the problem with my statement if you agree?
Not what I said, does the acts of a stone age thinking and primitive belief of that stupidness expand to all muslims or not?
Clearly it does not, so why are you trying to talk about "christian terrorists" in Africa?
Honestly if I talk amymore about this africna nonsense, I might just die. Literally I have seen nothing on news comparing the two..
Im just(no words)
Originally posted by Time-ImmemorialI just told you. It's how you seemed to imply Africans are back water savages and primitives whose actions can be easily dismissed because they are in the Stone Age.
So what was the problem with my statement if you agree?
EDIT: So I guess the thing I hates about your post was the Elitism from it. Also the double standard as you tried to casually dismiss them while still trying to imply that being Muslim is bad.
Originally posted by Newjak
I just told you. It's how you seemed to imply Africans are back water savages and primitives whose actions can be easily dismissed because they are in the Stone Age.
Im talking about the stone age thinking of radicals..clearly you are misrepresenting me now.
Question, How long are you going to continue to talk about African Christian Terrorists in a thread about this shooting in California?
How long is this going to go on?
edit: to your edit:
I was clearly talking about the absolute bucking of radicals and their ensuing pursuit based on a stone age text of violence, that refuses to reform and come around with the rest of their culture.
Not sure if this was posted yet:
Basically a backlash over a bunch of politicians tweeting their "thoughts and prayers" to the victims.
It's understandable, if you're someone who is outraged over the gun violence in America and the people who actually have the ability (politicians) to do something about it don't; they do the opposite, their expressing of "thoughts and prayers" probably seems hollow at this point.
I for one don't care they do the perfunctory "thoughts and prayers" thing, but again, I can understand why some people are upset.
I'm noticing a depressing pattern with the way lots of conservatives respond to these things. If the shooter is a white guy, then it's a "crazy problem," whereas if it's a Muslim then it's a "Muslim problem," and at no point do these people ever connect the dots to find the one thing that all these incidents share--the guns themselves.