Rogers, Bucky, Khan vs Sideous

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
ON page 9 & 10 you continually say it can only drive them backwards and that was because of the force of FL hitting them and sending them back.

As others and I have conclusively shown, it doesn't just drive them back it can be used to lift them up and slam them in whatever direction the user chooses. So you concede that FL can be used like TK to slam somebody against something while being shocked correct?

Yes, it can send them 360 as can any force depending on how it hits someone.

I've never seen Sidious do so. I'm not saying it's impossible it's out of character and not ever done to beat any considerable threat. Acting like this matchup starts and this is what he does is fanboyism.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
So you agree your theory has no basis then. Either way it matters not to me.

Actually vanished. Teleported means he would take his robe with him. Vanished is what Obi wan did in a New Hope. It's ironic how you criticize me for simple misspelling when you don't even know the diffenrce between two words.

No, he teleported outside of his robe. Obi wan died. 😂

Context.

Khan is the weak link on the team.

Originally posted by Tattoos N Scars
Khan is the weak link on the team.

Originally posted by quanchi112
My theory is correct yours isn't.

No, he teleported outside of his robe. Obi wan died. 😂

Context.

Your theory is that FL pushes people back and that's it. Well what is it when Dooku uses it on Anakin and he goes sideways, or how Sidious picked him up and threw him on the ground while Shocking Anakin, or how Dooku shocked and levitated the nightsisters at the same time. So yes one can use TK and FL at the same time. So my and everyone else claim is backed.

Vanished. Teleporting you take your clothes with you. Look at Once a upon a time, they teleport and guess what their clothes go with them. Obi wan vanished and his clothes didn't go. The father teleported and his clothes stayed. When he vanished his clothes didn't go. See the difference.

There is no context to it. One teleported one vanished and Sidious vanished. Not my fault you didn't know the diffenrce.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
Your theory is that FL pushes people back and that's it. Well what is it when Dooku uses it on Anakin and he goes sideways, or how Sidious picked him up and threw him on the ground while Shocking Anakin, or how Dooku shocked and levitated the nightsisters at the same time. So yes one can use TK and FL at the same time. So my and everyone else claim is backed.

Vanished. Teleporting you take your clothes with you. Look at Once a upon a time, they teleport and guess what their clothes go with them. Obi wan vanished and his clothes didn't go. The father teleported and his clothes stayed. When he vanished his clothes didn't go. See the difference.

There is no context to it. One teleported one vanished and Sidious vanished. Not my fault you didn't know the diffenrce.

Now you're arguing semantics and a clear distinction between the two. Prove that. Kenobi died. 😂

Prove it.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Wrong. Dooku used fl alone unless you can prove tk. Did Sidious use tk when his fl launched Yoda ?

Now you're arguing semantics and a clear distinction between the two. Prove that. Kenobi died. 😂

Prove it.

FL, even actual real life lighting doesn't lift people off the ground. TK does. So put the two together and you have TK+FL. Also FL doesn't do this https://youtu.be/BvnwLLXHabg 0:17-0:19 or this https://youtu.be/YBLcxXR1PMw 4:16-4:18

Or this

https://youtu.be/rahk3r5vob8 0:53-1:00

Or what he did with the nightsisters.

No I'm arguing the facts. Look at the difference. If your smart enough to.

Teleporting you take your clothes with you as seen by the father and Once upon a time characters. Vanishing you don't.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
FL, even actual real life lighting doesn't lift people off the ground. TK does. So put the two together and you have TK+FL. Also FL doesn't do this https://youtu.be/BvnwLLXHabg 0:17-0:19 or this https://youtu.be/YBLcxXR1PMw 4:16-4:18

Or this

https://youtu.be/rahk3r5vob8 0:53-1:00

Or what he did with the nightsisters.

No I'm arguing the facts. Look at the difference. If your smart enough to.

Teleporting you take your clothes with you as seen by the father and Once upon a time characters. Vanishing you don't.

Dooku isn't Sidious and you're not smart enough to grasp the scenes.

Originally posted by quanchi112
We see the fl. We know sidious isn't shooting lightning and fl. It is obvious.

Dooku isn't Sidious and you're not smart enough to grasp the scenes.

So you finally agree TK was used in conjunction with FL.

Yes your right, he is weaker. Thus Sidious can replicate all of Dooku's feats. I'm smarter than you since I can actually notice when FL and TK are being used at the same time.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
So you finally agree TK was used in conjunction with FL.

Yes your right, he is weaker. Thus Sidious can replicate all of Dooku's feats. I'm smarter than you since I can actually notice when FL and TK are being used at the same time.

Sidious isn't Dooku so it isn't in character and you haven't proven he does so. We argue based off the character not abilities.

😂

I was being facetious when I said that Sidious couldn't do what Dooku did.

Also, where is the rule about characters "fighting in-character," as you interpret it?

Originally posted by quanchi112
I just say tk wasn't used and you say I agree ? You're too dense to debate with and can't understand simple words.

Sidious isn't Dooku so it isn't in character and you haven't proven he does so. We argue based off the character not abilities.

😂

Well I mean by just saying something you don't prove it. It's like saying that someone is a great fighter without seeing any of his fights. You need proof and you have none.

He's more powerful and it's nothing different. Who do you think taught Dooku the lightning. So Sidious can also do this, since someone weaker did it and they were using the same side of the force, so yes he can lift these three like Dooku did the nightsisters.

Originally posted by The_Tempest
I was being facetious when I said that Sidious couldn't do what Dooku did.

Also, where is the rule about characters "fighting in-character," as you interpret it?

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
Well I mean by just saying something you don't prove it. It's like saying that someone is a great fighter without seeing any of his fights. You need proof and you have none.

He's more powerful and it's nothing different. Who do you think taught Dooku the lightning. So Sidious can also do this, since someone weaker did it and they were using the same side of the force, so yes he can lift these three like Dooku did the nightsisters.

Yes, but he himself withstood the fl for over 30 seconds. In character only.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
Well I mean by just saying something you don't prove it. It's like saying that someone is a great fighter without seeing any of his fights. You need proof and you have none.

He's more powerful and it's nothing different. Who do you think taught Dooku the lightning. So Sidious can also do this, since someone weaker did it and they were using the same side of the force, so yes he can lift these three like Dooku did the nightsisters.

Do you even know what you are talking about?

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Do you even know what you are talking about?

Originally posted by Raptor22
"Engines exploded into flame and spit and smoke. His master raised his hands, forming one into a claw emmitting jagged bolts of force lightning that connected him for a moment to the ship. Vader imagined the interior of the craft lit up with bolts of his masters power, the pilots screaming in pain as the dark side seared their flesh. The emperor clenched his other hand, taking a mental hold on the ship with the force toward. Vader, too, lifted a hand and reached oit with the force toward the other ship." LotS

Forget it. The Troll doesn't read Star Wars books. His fandom isn't on the level of mine and yours.

He claims to be the biggest TFA fan in the world, and yet hasn't read even 1 of the "Journey to the Force Awakens" series. Not even 1 😂

I've read all the ones available to me (a few short stories I can't get hold of). Plus rewatched all 6 movies this weekend. So I'm fully prepared to watch TFA this week. Unlike the Troll whose preparation for TFA consists of nothing but constantly hating on Classic Star Wars characters and films 😂

Originally posted by quanchi112
You need to prove tk is used as the fl is clearly used to drive someone back with force. You yourself admitted it and now change yout stance because you're biased and want to pretend it's tk.

Yes, but he himself withstood the fl for over 30 seconds. In character only.

Finally. The first thing you say that actually make sense and is somewhat sensible. However even if do concede that the FL by itself drives people back by the sheer magnitude of it which is sensible, what about lifting people like Dooku and Sidious have done, or throwing people around both up, down, and sideways.

No rules agaisnt it as far as I know. Fl+TK isn't a special ability to just Dooku you know.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
Finally. The first thing you say that actually make sense and is somewhat sensible. However even if do concede that the FL by itself drives people back by the sheer magnitude of it which is sensible, what about lifting people like Dooku and Sidious have done, or throwing people around both up, down, and sideways.

No rules agaisnt it as far as I know. Fl+TK isn't a special ability to just Dooku you know.

Sidious, while firing his FL, throws Mace out of the window "at an angle". Remember Sidious was lying in the same position so he didn't simply Push Mace backwards.

Quan's ridiculous "out of character" argument fails again.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
Finally. The first thing you say that actually make sense and is somewhat sensible. However even if do concede that the FL by itself drives people back by the sheer magnitude of it which is sensible, what about lifting people like Dooku and Sidious have done, or throwing people around both up, down, and sideways.

No rules agaisnt it as far as I know. Fl+TK isn't a special ability to just Dooku you know.

If you can't show him using the attack then it's out of character and you scripting. That's the point.