Vader & Sidious run a guantlet

Vader and Sidious as of ROTJ

1. CW Maul, Savage Opress, and Greivous
2. CW Count Dooku, Grievous, and Asajj Ventress
3. DD Quinlan Vos, AOTC Obi Wan and ROTS Mace Windu
4. ROTS Mace Windu and Count Dooku
5. ROTJ Luke, ROTS Obi Wan and Mace Windu
6. ROTS Mace Windu and Yoda
7. ROTS Yoda, Mace Windu, and Obi Wan

Don't see any evidence that Vader got weaker as of ROTJ besides nebulous "prime" comments", so Vader & Sidious clear, though not without trouble in round 5 and 7. Otherwise, they stop at 5.

7 or clear.

Certainly die at 7. 6 is 50/50.

Clear

Nah, I think the sheer mastery that they both have over the force at this time would get them through, especially Sidious. Take in to account that Vader is much more calm in a duel and basically created his own style due to his suit and limbs, they get through, but def not unscathed.

they clear 6 6/10
7 is 50/50; I see them winning if Sidious spams force

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
7 or clear.

They're down at seven. They do have a chance to clear, but there's probably a greater chance that they go down at 7.

Originally posted by Lord Stark
Certainly die at 7. 6 is 50/50.

They can clear if Sidious geeks Obi Wan immediately. Then it'd be a rehash of 6, only starting slightly worse off.

5 is only a problem Morals on, as Luke might turn his Dad against Sidious (Again)

Originally posted by Angelalex242
They can clear if Sidious geeks Obi Wan immediately. Then it'd be a rehash of 6, only starting slightly worse off.

5 is only a problem Morals on, as Luke might turn his Dad against Sidious (Again)

No way is Sidious gonna be able to do that to Kenobi while fending off Yoda of all people. Any opening Sidious gives him will immediately be punished.

Nah, Sidious can KO Obi-Wan effortlessly and canonically Sheev is = or > Yoda. So I'm not sure dispatching Obi-Wan is going to matter.

Originally posted by The_Tempest
Nah, Sidious can KO Obi-Wan effortlessly and canonically Sheev is = or > Yoda. So I'm not sure dispatching Obi-Wan is going to matter.

Because Kenobi can hold off 'prime' Vader in ANH. There's nothing suggesting he couldn't do the same in ROTJ. And there's no way Sheev can hold off Yoda and Windu and dispatch Kenobi without getting wrecked.

Edit.

Anyway, probably stop at 7 or clear.

Originally posted by Lord Stark
Because Kenobi can hold off 'prime' Vader in ANH. There's nothing suggesting he couldn't do the same in ROTJ. And there's no way Sheev can hold off Yoda and Windu and dispatch Kenobi without getting wrecked.

You said "Yoda, of all people." Sheev can KO Obi-Wan effortlessly and he's canonically Yoda's equal or superior. I don't see Kenobi making a difference. Hell, Sheev mangled Mace's companions while Mace was in the room. If he can do that, he can break Obi-Wan's neck and contend with Yoda at the same time.

Originally posted by The_Tempest
You said "Yoda, of all people." Sheev can KO Obi-Wan effortlessly and he's canonically Yoda's equal or superior. I don't see Kenobi making a difference. Hell, Sheev mangled Mace's companions while Mace was in the room. If he can do that, he can break Obi-Wan's neck and contend with Yoda at the same time.

So he's gonna hold off Mace and Yoda whilst snapping Kenobi's neck? That's unfounded.

I didn't say that. You said he couldn't kill Obi-Wan while dealing with Yoda. I'm saying he can. I never mentioned Mace.

Originally posted by The_Tempest
I didn't say that. You said he couldn't kill Obi-Wan while dealing with Yoda. I'm saying he can. I never mentioned Mace.

I think he could as well. But I also think it'd give Yoda an opening. Similar to in the Vision fight when Sidious attacks Anakin and it gave Yoda the opening to TK the shit out of him.

If Sidious and Vader don't spam force off the bat at 7 team might take it. As it is they can probably clear.