Originally posted by Syndicate
If Sidious and Vader don't spam force off the bat at 7 team might take it. As it is they can probably clear.
If they act out of character then sure they have what it takes to win. But knowing Vader he's gonna want to go into a melee with Kenobi as he did in ANH and then Mace and Yoda will wreck Sidious' shit.
Originally posted by Syndicate
*Shrug* Depends if Sidious lets him or not. He might simply decide to take Obi Wan out of the equation knowing it would distract Vader.
I highly doubt it. Vader would want to kill Kenobi personally. His obsession with Obi-Wan is well past the point of rational. He arguably wouldn't let Sidious deprive him of the pleasure.
Also, again, if Sidious takes a second to focus on Kenobi, it could leave Yoda the opening to kill him.
Originally posted by Syndicate
Sidious could just send a general force wave out that incapacitates Obi Wan. Yoda will have to shield himself from the attack before engaging with Sidious.
1. When has Sidious ever incapacitated someone of Kenobi's calibre with a casual force wave? Even Savage he has to concentrate for a second.
2. You really think a combined force shield from Yoda and Mace couldn't deflect Sidious' wave? Yoda alone could do that.
Remember on Oba-Dia when Dooku sends a force wave and Anakin and Kenobi block it? Yoda and Mace could do the same (I mean Kenobi too but it counts for shit.)
Originally posted by Lord Stark
1. When has Sidious ever incapacitated someone of Kenobi's calibre with a casual force wave? Even Savage he has to concentrate for a second.
2. You really think a combined force shield from Yoda and Mace couldn't deflect Sidious' wave? Yoda alone could do that.Remember on Oba-Dia when Dooku sends a force wave and Anakin and Kenobi block it? Yoda and Mace could do the same (I mean Kenobi too but it counts for shit.)
He hasn't but he's mused upon taking apart the Imperial palace which should be more then enough power to overwhelm a force user like Obi Wan.
He could shield himself but the others too? I don't know about that. Also Mace isn't shown to know how to pool his powers with another to form a defensive barrier. It's debatable that he might be able to shield himself.
Originally posted by Syndicate
He hasn't but he's mused upon taking apart the Imperial palace which should be more then enough power to overwhelm a force user like Obi Wan.
I don't disagree. But as I said he'd also have to bypass Yoda and Mace's shield.
He could shield himself but the others too? I don't know about that. Also Mace isn't shown to know how to pool his powers with another to form a defensive barrier. It's debatable that he might be able to shield himself. [
If Yoda and Mace can do a combined Force Wave in unison I see no reason why they couldn't erect a joint shield.
If Kenobi and Skywalker can shield from Dooku's attack then yes Mace, Yoda, and Kenobi's combined force shield would deflect Sidious' attack.
Originally posted by Lord Stark
I don't disagree. But as I said he'd also have to bypass Yoda and Mace's shield.If Yoda and Mace can do a combined Force Wave in unison I see no reason why they couldn't erect a joint shield.
If Kenobi and Skywalker can shield from Dooku's attack then yes Mace, Yoda, and Kenobi's combined force shield would deflect Sidious' attack.
*Shrug* If we're assuming Mace and Obi Wan can pool their powers with Yoda rather then individually shielding themselves.
Sidious, at this point, is slightly above Yoda, as ROTJ Sidious is equal to Prime Yoda, and ROTS Yoda is past his prime.
Another point is that Vader has to fight Mace. The Sith do not want Mace getting superamped off Sidious as happened in ROTS. He cannot gain that amp fighting the relatively emotionless Vader, as Vader primarily really only hates himself.