Rebels Ahsoka and Ben Kenobi run a gauntlet

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
Old Kenobi was able to contend with Prime Vader in ANH. Even if RotS is his prime, he's well equipped to block Dooku's Lightning. 😬

Dooku never defeated Kenobi by FL. He overhelmed him in a saber fight in AotC, by TK in ROTS and nearly stomp him physically in their last duel in TCW.
Perhaps Ben became more powerful in the Force (not sure however, also I'm not a fan of conception, that Dooku could beat Kenobi by his TK whenever he wanted - I believe that he could do it only because he thrown him off-balance in saber fight and Kenobi lowered his guard).
Anyway, Kenobi is terrible team partner due to his lack of offensive - in both sabers and the Force. He's also somehow weaker (until it wont be state otherwise) as Ben, so I doubt that Dooku will even needs those MG's.

What the hell are you talking about? Kenobi has Ataru for offensive, and Dooku needed to use droids to take on both of Kenobi and Anakin, and Kenobi was able to deflect all of Dooku's attacks without any effort. He's a hell of a good teammate to aid Ahsoka or anyone, especially if they are able to remove the Magnaguards quickly, and they definitely can. Not to mention it took all of Dooku's energy to remove Obi-Wan from the fight, and we already know that his casual TK is able to be blocked by Obi-Wan.

Originally posted by McP
Anyway, Kenobi is terrible team partner due to his lack of offensive - in both sabers and the Force..

ur sig iz shit, Ant

I can literally count the pixels in yours, bro.

That's because mine isn't based on a lie. uhuh

Freshest mad Revan's a central antagonist in TFA with frequent mentions in sourcebooks and videogames. 😂

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
What the hell are you talking about? Kenobi has Ataru for offensive, and Dooku needed to use droids to take on both of Kenobi and Anakin, and Kenobi was able to deflect all of Dooku's attacks without any effort.

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
Not to mention it took all of Dooku's energy to remove Obi-Wan from the fight

Lucas co-wrote the ROTS novel, lmfao.

And lmfao @ comparing TCW K. to ROTS K..

Originally posted by McP
Selfown by you

Not in that part, God. Stover had ealier version of script. It was changed. A duel between Sidious and Yoda is a best example for that. You can hate me, but you should be impartial.

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
Besides what Ant said, because both Kenobi and particularly Anakin grew greatly in power between Season 6 and RotS, Dooku isn't fighting Kenobi by himself, bud. A mind's a terrible thing to let go to waste.

Those droids were like a points in a whoseline. In a novel, Dooku truly needed their's help, but in the movie Kenobi destroyed both of them, Dooku clashed his saber with Anakin's and Kenobi's sabers, overhelm them both in a saberlock which thown them off balance. He then kicked Skywalker away and overhelmed kenobi by Force TK. But he outmanuvered both of them in a saber fight at first place.

Too bad unlike your opinion, the book is valid and canon. If it doesn't contradict what's on screen, it's valid, and most of the duel is completely valid. You making up shit, which is contradicted on screen, however, is as far from valid as one can possible be. Like this:

Originally posted by McP
Those droids were like a points in a whoseline. In a novel, Dooku truly needed their's help, but in the movie Kenobi destroyed both of them, Dooku clashed his saber with Anakin's and Kenobi's sabers, overhelm them both in a saberlock which thown them off balance. He then kicked Skywalker away and overhelmed kenobi by Force TK. But he outmanuvered both of them in a saber fight at first place.

Lol. If any guy that i respected will agree with what you have said, then I'll call myself idiot and admit your victory. But what you said above is... a nonsense for me.

Sorry mate, "respected" was a bad word. I ment any of guys that have perhaps similar opinions to mine about that universe.

That might be the single dumbest thing I've ever read here. "If people who agree with me agree with you, then I'll admit I'm an idiot, but since people who agree with me are also retarded, I don't fear that."

Fact is, you don't have to think you're wrong for you to be wrong. You just are. You can go on thinking whatever you want to. You're hardly worth the time of anyone convincing.

Allright, I'll prove that by myself. It's just late and I'm a bit lazy:

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
Too bad unlike your opinion, the book is valid and canon. If it doesn't contradict what's on screen, it's valid, and most of the duel is completely valid. You making up shit, which is contradicted on screen, however, is as far from valid as one can possible be. Like this:

He didn't overwhelm anybody in sabers, he knocked them both off balance with the Force, just like in the novel. He didn't outmaneuver them and constantly kept himself away from both in combat.

OBI-WAN and ANAKIN move toward DOOKU.
OBI-WAN: You won't get away this time, Dooku.
OBI-WAN and ANAKIN charge COUNT DOOKU. A great sword fight ensues.

They don't pretend to be less skilled at that point. In a novel, when they did, it was stated to look pathetic, not "great".

COUNT DOOKU: I've been looking forward to this.
ANAKIN: My powers have doubled since the last time we met, Count.
COUNT DOOKU: Good. Twice the pride, double the fall.
DOOKU lunges at the JEDI and they fall back . . .
COUNT DOOKU: (continuing) Your moves are clumsy, Kenobi . . . too predictable. You'll have to do better.
As the battle proceeds, OBI-WAN and COUNT DOOKU are tired. ANAKIN is stronger as he becomes angry. ANAKIN continues to drive the attack on DOOKU. COUNT DOOKU throws OBI-WAN back using the Force.
ANAKIN and COUNT DOOKU move up the stairs.

Red parts were cut off. Sad, but those parts might suggest that They were holding back.
Yellow part might be true, some parts were cut off, it's not likely that Dooku and Kenobi were as tired as it's stated. I might be wrong here though.

As they reach the upper landing of the General's Quarters, ANAKIN leaps over COUNT DOOKU. OBI-WAN reaches the top of the stairs, destroying TWO SUPER BATTLE DROIDS.LACK OF A LITTLE PART COUNT DOOKU holds OBI-WAN in the air using the Force as he turns and kicks ANAKIN out of frame. OBI-WAN is choking.
ANAKIN hits the archway.
DOOKU sends OBI-WAN flying. The Jedi tumbles to the lower level unconscious. COUNT DOOKU spins around again and, using the Force, causes a section of the balcony to drop onto OBI-WAN. ANAKIN spins and kicks COUNT DOOKU, sending him over the balcony. ANAKIN Jumps, following him down to the main floor. COUNT DOOKU and ANAKIN continue the fight.

Lacking part:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYT3ctPuVRw
1:44 They clashed their sabers, Dooku overhelmes/outmanuveres them and throw them off-balance
So, there is no part on screen that would suggest that there were holding back. So it's less possile that any of them was that tired.
There wasn't also any single part, when Kenobi dueled Dooku alone, so Dooku couldn't even try to break Kenobi's defense, he has no time for that.

And, a little offtop - could you bring me quote, that Dooku used all of his energy to defeat Kenobi? Or, perhaps you mean "he used all of his remaining enrgy" (which was reduced mostly by Skywaler's attacks)? That's a great difference

Btw, if you want to compare Rise and Fall of DV and Stover's novel quotes to that, then no problem, but muuuuch later ^^

Novel > Movie tbh.

😉

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The novel should be used as the primary source, not the films.

The films are limited due to budget, time, and effects, and meant to entertain.

The novels have no boundaries, fully describe the situation and what we otherwise wouldn't know.

Taking fights as shown in the films at face value is a good way to conclude similarly to Jeensaari.