Prove God Exists...

Started by Omega Vision8 pages
Omega Vision Face Flowed Into Her Eyes

Originally posted by Astner
But they couldn't be proven. Are you implying that things can exist without evidence?

Proof and existence are different. You can't prove something without evidence, but something can exist independent of human reckoning. That doesn't mean it's epistemologically responsible to believe in things that can't be proven though.

Astner The Ghost Who Walks

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Proof and existence are different.

I was making fun of his reasoning....

Omega Vision Face Flowed Into Her Eyes

Oh, then carry on.

Adam Grimes Devil On Your Shoulder

Originally posted by Henry_Pym
Because people rule and form laws based on there favorite book.

I'd like to pass a law that all men must dress accordingly based solely on which side of the tracks they live on. Wouldn't want our women being besmirched by them greaser punks.

Pack mindset, I can see that.
Originally posted by Astner
Because that's boring?
Yeah, that's what I was thinking. Life without religious conflict would be even more boring.

Surtur Restricted

Originally posted by Adam Grimes
Why can't everyone be happy with their own ideology without attacking the others?

Asking to both groups.

It's not an attack to point out there is no proof God exists.

Adam Grimes Devil On Your Shoulder

Originally posted by Surtur
It's not an attack to point out there is no proof God exists.
You usually don't stop there, for instance.

Van Hohenheim Senior Member

Originally posted by Astner
You don't arrive at the conclusion from the premises.

They do support the argument. Did you watch the videos you posted?

Originally posted by Astner

No. Deductive reasoning is generally not used in natural philosophy because we don't have a proper understanding of nature.

Yes, and the conclusion even if logically correct can't be tested. So there's no way to test how false it might be.

Given that you understand the flaws in deductive reasoning, why would you try an attempt to use it as a way to prove god's existence?

Surtur Restricted
Originally posted by Adam Grimes
You usually don't stop there, for instance.

Usually only after people begin saying crazy stuff.

Esau Cairn Contagious
Originally posted by Tattoos N Scars
Blind faith is real faith. The Bible teaches this.

The point to this topic was not to bring the bible into discussion as the only proof available.

Adam Grimes Devil On Your Shoulder

Originally posted by Surtur
Usually only after people begin saying crazy stuff.
It's still an attack.

Esau Cairn Contagious

Originally posted by Adam Grimes
Why can't everyone be happy with their own ideology without attacking the others?

Asking to both groups.

Notice the one's with faith are the ones must adamant in attacking others beliefs?

juggerman Senior Member

What would be be considered "proof"?

Mindset Senior Member

Originally posted by Esau Cairn
Notice the one's with faith are the ones must adamant in attacking others beliefs?
Faith leads to rigidity in thinking, that's pretty much its purpose.

Esau Cairn Contagious
Originally posted by Mindset
Faith leads to rigidity in thinking, that's pretty much its purpose.

I get the feeling that when Star makes it to Heaven, even God will think he's a tw*t.

Esau Cairn Contagious
Originally posted by juggerman
What would be be considered "proof"?

God himself reaffirming his existence.

I don't think that's too much to ask for if he wants our devotion.

Adam Grimes Devil On Your Shoulder

Originally posted by Esau Cairn
Notice the one's with faith are the ones must adamant in attacking others beliefs?
Yeah, they're usually the first to talk contemptuously about other groups.

It's a back and forth.

Mindset Senior Member

God exists and he despises us.

Take comfort in that.

Adam Grimes Devil On Your Shoulder

Only until I find him.

juggerman Senior Member

Originally posted by Esau Cairn
God himself reaffirming his existence.

I don't think that's too much to ask for if he wants our devotion.

So if nothing short of that will suffice, why make the thread? Nothing but God Himself will sway you it seems

Tattoos N Scars Modern Day Drifter

http://www.decodedscience.org/modal-logic-proved-godel-right-god-exists/38801

Kurt Godel offered a mathematical proof that God exists. Take it for what you will.