Yoda, Mace, Obi Wan, Ki Al Mundi, Qui Gon vs Quinlan Dark Side knowledge only

Started by redpill3 pages

Originally posted by Aurbere
Over a long period of time in Attack of the Clones, and on Vjun.
so what are some Yoda's dark side feats that would show he knows more about the dark side than Vos?

for Vos i point to his training by asajj and dooku, the sleeper, the poison by snake, the torture on dooku, his desire to avenge his master, choking asajj defeating dooku etc.

and in legends vos meets his dark side in his fight with sora bulq

Originally posted by redpill
so what are some Yoda's dark side feats that would show he knows more about the dark side than Vos?

for Vos i point to his training by asajj and dooku, the sleeper, the poison by snake, the torture on dooku, his desire to avenge his master, choking asajj defeating dooku etc.

and in legends vos meets his dark side in his fight with sora bulq

http://www.comicvine.com/profile/aurbere/blog/master-yoda-respect-thread-part-1/109043/

I'm sure you can find them in there. Also, I wanted to plug my own thread. 😛

Originally posted by Aurbere
http://www.comicvine.com/profile/aurbere/blog/master-yoda-respect-thread-part-1/109043/

I'm sure you can find them in there. Also, I wanted to plug my own thread. 😛

i've started reading lots of praise for yoda

but where does it say yoda is trained in the dark side?

Originally posted by redpill
i've started reading lots of praise for yoda

but where does it say yoda is trained in the dark side?

It doesn't. Now keep reading.

Originally posted by Aurbere
It doesn't. Now keep reading.
what evidence do you have that yoda knowledge of the dark side surpasses vos'

Originally posted by redpill
what evidence do you have that yoda knowledge of the dark side surpasses vos'

Well given that Vos actually hasn't shown knowledge of the dark side and simply uses it because of his extremely limited training in it, I'd say it's pretty easy to surpass Vos in that. 🙂

Originally posted by Aurbere
Well given that Vos actually hasn't shown knowledge of the dark side and simply uses it because of his extremely limited training in it, I'd say it's pretty easy to surpass Vos in that. 🙂

if you use something it shows you have knowledge of it.

and DD is clear asajj and dooku trained vos in dark side

Originally posted by redpill
if you use something it shows you have knowledge of it.

and DD is clear asajj and dooku trained vos in dark side

Kewl, so lots of Jedi have knowledge of the dark side. Srsly the list is too large to count.

And I acknowledged his training. I just said it's extremely limited. Which it is.

I'd say I have no idea why I'm bothering with this, but I'm bored and doing this is way better than what I normally do when I'm bored. So whatever.

Originally posted by Aurbere
Kewl, so lots of Jedi have knowledge of the dark side. Srsly the list is too large to count.

And I acknowledged his training. I just said it's extremely limited. Which it is.

I'd say I have no idea why I'm bothering with this, but I'm bored and doing this is way better than what I normally do when I'm bored. So whatever.

no jedi are NOT exposed to the dark side, they are trained from birth to shun the dark side.

Originally posted by redpill
yeah but yoda has darkophobia - hes a afraid of the dark side. hes afraid if u feel the pull of the dark side forever will it dominate your destiny.

mace skirts close. that's quite distinct from vos being TRAINED in it.

vos has the most dark side knowledge

I think your confusing knowledge with the power to do certain things. I believe Yoda has more knowledge of the dark side he just doesn't use it. Mace we see him use dark side abilities and vaapad skirts very close to the dark side.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
I think your confusing knowledge with the power to do certain things. I believe Yoda has more knowledge of the dark side he just doesn't use it. Mace we see him use dark side abilities and vaapad skirts very close to the dark side.

if you do not demonstrate power then what evidence is there of knowledge?

i'd place mace second after Vos. maybe yoda third.

Vos has knowledge + power + embrace it.

Originally posted by redpill
if you do not demonstrate power then what evidence is there of knowledge?

i'd place mace second after Vos. maybe yoda third.

Vos has knowledge + power + embrace it.

I don't demonstrate the ability to speak Spanish but I can speak it to an extent. Vos doesn't really have much knowledge of the dark side. Yoda has more most likely than you ahve Mace and Obi wan combined all of that wins. Anyway not going to continue this since you will just troll, but just thought to give my 2 cents on this.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
I don't demonstrate the ability to speak Spanish but I can speak it to an extent. Vos doesn't really have much knowledge of the dark side. Yoda has more most likely than you ahve Mace and Obi wan combined all of that wins. Anyway not going to continue this since you will just troll, but just thought to give my 2 cents on this.

have you read Dark Disciple? his knowledge of the dark side and the power he demonstrates is extensively documented

Originally posted by redpill
delving is one thing. being trained, immersed, and using it is another.

does Yoda have MORE darkside knowledge that Vos, who not only trained under asajj and dooku but used it?

Vos > Yoda + mace + qui gon +Obi Wan + Kai Al Mundi

Nah, Vos may have been trained and immersed in the dark side but it was his lack of understanding of it that led him to be consumed, and lose control.

Yoda's ability to delve into the dark side and not be consumed by it (like Ventress) demonstrates superior knowledge of how it works as far as wisdom is concerned.

Originally posted by Beniboybling
Nah, Vos may have been trained and immersed in the dark side but it was his lack of understanding of it that led him to be consumed, and lose control.

Yoda's ability to delve into the dark side and not be consumed by it (like Ventress) demonstrates superior knowledge of how it works as far as wisdom is concerned.

by this reasoning then yoda knows more about the dark side then sidious 😆

No, Sidious had control over his emotions and was stated to have tamed the dark side, whereas in Dark Disciple the dark side is clearly in control of Vos, and drives him to act irrationally, blindly and impulsively.

Learning to control your emotions is an important part of Sith training, and in this respect Vos was little more masterful or learned in the dark side than Savage Opress.

Originally posted by Beniboybling
No, Sidious had control over his emotions and was stated to have tamed the dark side, whereas in Dark Disciple the dark side is clearly in control of Vos, and drives him to act irrationally, blindly and impulsively.

Learning to control your emotions is an important part of Sith training, and in this respect Vos was little more masterful or learned in the dark side than Savage Opress.

sidious did tell luke, use your agressive feelings boy, let the hate flow through you!

maul also seemed out of control yet that was his style.

vos was letting the hate flow through.

Yes, well spotted. Sidious was banking on an inexperienced Luke being consumed by the dark side and doing something totally irrational like becoming Palpatine's apprentice, and murdering all of his friends. You know, the same trick he pulled with Anakin.

But the ability to "let the hate flow through you" does not make you wise and masterful in the dark side by any stretch.

Not sure what you're on about regarding Maul, in comparison to Savage it is obvious that he is the calm and collected one.

Originally posted by Beniboybling
Yes, well spotted. Sidious was banking on an inexperienced Luke being consumed by the dark side and doing something totally irrational like becoming Palpatine's apprentice, and murdering all of his friends. You know, the same trick he pulled with Anakin.

But the ability to "let the hate flow through you" does not make you wise and masterful in the dark side by any stretch.

Not sure what you're on about regarding Maul, in comparison to Savage it is obvious that he is the calm and collected one.


one darth vader was totally out of control reference mustafar

two, maul was also totally out of control reference obi wan on mandalore

three sidious was also totally out of control reference luke rotj

Originally posted by redpill
one darth vader was totally out of control reference mustafar
Great, another person with little knowledge and mastery over the dark side going crazy.
two, maul was also totally out of control reference obi wan on mandalore
You'll have to be more specific.
three sidious was also totally out of control reference luke rotj
Lol I don't even.

Give it up redpill, you're not even making sense anymore.