Yoda, Mace, Obi Wan, Ki Al Mundi, Qui Gon vs Quinlan Dark Side knowledge only

Started by redpill3 pages

Originally posted by Beniboybling
Great, another person with little knowledge and mastery over the dark side going crazy.
You'll have to be more specific.Lol I don't even.

Give it up redpill, you're not even making sense anymore.

quinlan when he went to the dark side was more in control of his emotions than anakin.

two, what you call getting out of control is how the dark side works.

three, i see no evidence yoda knows more of the dark side than vos.

Originally posted by redpill
quinlan when he went to the dark side was more in control of his emotions than anakin.
OK, let's test that theory.

Transformed into a pawn by a Dark Lord who twisted his mind? Check.

Tried to kill the person he loved as a result? Check.

Turned against long-standing friends and allies as a result? Check.

Believed what he was doing would by some twisted logic, make the world better for himself and aforementioned love? Check.

Mmm... gonna have to disagree with you I'm afraid.

two, what you call getting out of control is how the dark side works.
Yes, because all Sith Lords are raging hormonal adolescents, and Vader did not later get a handle on his emotions afterward.
three, i see no evidence yoda knows more of the dark side than vos.
He's delved into the dark side without going crazy, so clearly has more control/understanding over it than Vos. 👆

redpill raping Beni, kek.

Originally posted by Beniboybling
OK, let's test that theory.

Transformed into a pawn by a Dark Lord who twisted his mind? Check.

Tried to kill the person he loved as a result? Check.

Turned against long-standing friends and allies as a result? Check.

Believed what he was doing would by some twisted logic, make the world better for himself and aforementioned love? Check.

Mmm... gonna have to disagree with you I'm afraid.Yes, because all Sith Lords are raging hormonal adolescents, and Vader did not later get a handle on his emotions afterward.He's delved into the dark side without going crazy, so clearly has more control/understanding over it than Vos. 👆

have you read Dark Disciple?

did he kill Asajj even after learning she killed Tholme and lied about it?

No.

Did Anakin attempt to kill Padme?

yes.

Vos > Anakin

So Yoda still solos

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
So Yoda still solos

evidence?

this is evidence
this is an example of Vos knowledge and mastery

1 Asajj trains Vos in dark side, based on a dark side tradition from the nightsisters, a tradition that includes mother talzin
2- asks Vos to practice
3- orders Vos to summon the sleeper.
4- vos kills it.

Vos summons the sleeper using his mastery of the dark side

success.

worth noting that Vos is in control of the dark side, not the other way around, in this instance.

until i see evidence i think there are trolls here.

Originally posted by redpill
have you read Dark Disciple?

did he kill attempt to kill Asajj even after learning she killed Tholme and lied about it?

No. Yes.

Did Anakin attempt to kill Padme?

yes.

Vos = Anakin

Fixed.

Originally posted by Beniboybling
Fixed.

Asajj was able to calm Quinlan down, after she told him she loved him.

Quinlan stand down.

Anakin would not calm down, not by padme not by obi wan.

Quilnan > Anakin in dark side wisdom

Except he did calm down, and let her go. 😬

EDIT: Kinda bored now though, so you'll have to find a new playmate.

Originally posted by Beniboybling
Except he did calm down, and let her go. 😬

EDIT: Kinda bored now though, so you'll have to find a new playmate.

that's pretty selective memory you have there.

padme says i love you
anakin says liar!
anakin choked padme unconcious.

OBI WAN pleaded with anakin to let her go, and only AFTER she was unconcious did he let her go.

then anakin engaged obi wan in duel.

the last words anakin said to obi wan on mustfar

I HATE YOU!

quinlan vos started choking a crying pleading asajj.

asajj told him she loved him and yeah she lied about tholme.

vos then relents and lets asajj go.

no comparison between the two.

my point still stands.

vos was trained in the dark side by both asajj and dooku and has plenty of applications of his knowledge of the dark side.

no tcw jedi has such training in dark side, not yoda, not mace, prior to ROTS.

only pong krell embraced the dark side but was not trained in it.

Originally posted by Beniboybling
OK, let's test that theory.

Transformed into a pawn by a Dark Lord who twisted his mind? Check.

Tried to kill the person he loved as a result? Check.

Turned against long-standing friends and allies as a result? Check.

Believed what he was doing would by some twisted logic, make the world better for himself and aforementioned love? Check.

Mmm... gonna have to disagree with you I'm afraid.Yes, because all Sith Lords are raging hormonal adolescents, and Vader did not later get a handle on his emotions afterward.He's delved into the dark side without going crazy, so clearly has more control/understanding over it than Vos. 👆

that page contradicts your claim that the dark side has mastered vos

vos has mastered the dark side, perhaps to an even greater degree than vader.

dark side made vos calmer

Originally posted by Beniboybling
Nah, Vos may have been trained and immersed in the dark side but it was his lack of understanding of it that led him to be consumed, and lose control.

Yoda's ability to delve into the dark side and not be consumed by it (like Ventress) demonstrates superior knowledge of how it works as far as wisdom is concerned.

what evidence do you have his lack of understanding of it that led him to be consumed, and lose control?

in DD quinlan allows himself to be rescued. the jedi high council felt there was no dark side in quinlan, and yoda only detected some dark side.

ofc quinlan had such control of the dark side he could hide his immersion in it from the jedi council