Kylo Ren vs. Khan

Started by quanchi11215 pages

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
It's not misrepresenting anything at all. This is your exact argument using another analogy. It's stop on, and exposes how utterly ridiculous it really is.

You're saying Kylo never froze somebody before being shot at.. thus he can't. Problem is, he's done things VASTLY more difficult than that. So if he can do something vastly more difficult, he can do something vastly easier. He's literally stop blaster fire AFTER it was fired and froze that person. All take EXPONENTIALLY speed and reflexes to do, than simply freezing somebody you're looking directly at. So if he can do something vastly harder, why wouldn't he be able to do something vastly easier? He could, and would. But idiocy is your specialty, and thus you think:

Somebody who's shown to lift 500 pounds
can't lift 200 pounds because they were never shown doing so.

It's moronic

I did not say he can't I said he won't. It isn't in character. He froze one blast and one person who isn't as strong as Khan is. If someone holds a child back that doesn't mean they can hold a UFC adult fighter back.

🙂

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Yeah his Freeze ability needs to be activated by a prior gunshot 😂

Ren proved what me and others have kept repeating in the Khan vs threads for a the last couple of years. That anyone of the top tier force users would instantly freeze Khan in a "fight"

Originally posted by quanchi112
It has to change based on who they are up against. I never once said Kylo was not injured or lied about any of the facts. Ever.

That shows your bias. Basically you calling Neo a bullet timer in one thread you think he wins and then claiming that someone else shoots and kills him in another thread and downplaying his bullet timing speed isn't just debating "relative" abilities.

Originally posted by quanchi112
This topic doesn't interest me. I've explained that to you many times.

It does interest you since you are here posting so much. If it didn't interest you, you would have skipped over this thread like you did Khan vs Voldemort

Originally posted by Darth Thor
He has never froze frozen anyone before they could fire. Rey got off multiple shots. Khan kills him. Facts are facts.

Originally posted by juggerman
That shows your bias. Basically you calling Neo a bullet timer in one thread you think he wins and then claiming that someone else shoots and kills him in another thread and downplaying his bullet timing speed isn't just debating "relative" abilities.

It does interest you since you are here posting so much. If it didn't interest you, you would have skipped over this thread like you did Khan vs Voldemort

When have I ever done what you claimed ? You just made something else up. Ren got shot in his film FFS.

😂

Same logic goes for Robbie. He posts all the time but doesn't want to do a battlezone. I've already put in the effort for Khan twice. I'll post here but that's about it. 😉

Originally posted by quanchi112
When have I ever done what you claimed ? You just made something else up. Ren got shot in his film FFS.

😂

Same logic goes for Robbie. He posts all the time but doesn't want to do a battlezone. I've already put in the effort for Khan twice. I'll post here but that's about it. 😉

You mean like here vs in the Ren vs Loki thread? I mean you even said here that Ren has never frozen someone as powerful as Khan yet you claimed in the Loki thread that he could hold Loki(Loki is much more powerful than Khan btw).

So something you try to slam Rob for is your defense? Again with the changing up when it suits you. At least your inconsistency is consistent

Originally posted by juggerman
You mean like here vs in the Ren vs Loki thread? I mean you even said here that Ren has never frozen someone as powerful as Khan yet you claimed in the Loki thread that he could hold Loki(Loki is much more powerful than Khan btw).

So something you try to slam Rob for is your defense? Again with the changing up when it suits you. At least your inconsistency is consistent

I never said he couldn't freeze Mhan I said he wouldn't get the chance. Loki isn't as ruthless nor does he have the weaponry that Khan has.,

He criticized me for backing down and I thought hey I'll ask him again and he said no not for me. Hypocrisy. I never expressed an interest to battlezone you did. I've already repped Khan twice. I created a thread for the challenge I want. I'll debate in the threads but won't battlezone every single thread someone wants to. If you want to challenge someone on it post the thread and show you're serious.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I never said he couldn't freeze Mhan I said he wouldn't get the chance. Loki isn't as ruthless nor does he have the weaponry that Khan has.,

Yes you did, you used the 'child and ufc' analogy for it:

Originally posted by quanchi112
He froze one blast and one person who isn't as strong as Khan is. If someone holds a child back that doesn't mean they can hold a UFC adult fighter back.

🙂

Juggerman just showed your silly bias. Kylo can hold Loki, but he somehow can't hold Khan according to you. Busted.

o shit.

Originally posted by juggerman
You mean like here vs in the Ren vs Loki thread? I mean you even said here that Ren has never frozen someone as powerful as Khan yet you claimed in the Loki thread that he could hold Loki(Loki is much more powerful than Khan btw).

So something you try to slam Rob for is your defense? Again with the changing up when it suits you. At least your inconsistency is consistent

😂

Busted.

Was gonna start but I see Rob addressed it. 👆

Originally posted by Robtard
Yes you did, you used the 'child and ufc' analogy for it:

Juggerman just showed your silly bias. Kylo can hold Loki, but he somehow can't hold Khan according to you. Busted.

I never said he can't hold Khan I just said Khan is a lot stronger than Poe and Rey. I also think that's a moot point because I don't ever seeing him being alive to freeze him. I've always been consistent. I only entertained the question because he seems obsessed with Kylo winning when he obviously doesn't.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
😂

Busted.

??

Anyway since quanchi admits that Kylo can freeze Loki, Khan is pretty much piecemeal here

Originally posted by StealthRanger
Anyway since quanchi admits that Kylo can freeze Loki, Khan is pretty much piecemeal here
Loki doesn't start his fights off as ruthless or with Khan's weaponry. I've been very consistent, boy.

The "ruthlessness" argument always cracks me up. Like being ruthless is going to counter every other physical difference in a match. And then trying to do it in an argument regarding Loki to boot, a guy who has shown himself more than willing to murder even genetic and/or adopted family members to reach his goals, and will often try to use cheap shots/underhanded tactics (even in fights) to do so. Hell, Loki was willing to kill some old, defenseless guy simply because he didn't want to kneel.

Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
The "ruthlessness" argument always cracks me up. Like being ruthless is going to counter every other physical difference in a match. And then trying to do it in an argument regarding Loki to boot, a guy who has shown himself more than willing to murder even genetic and/or adopted family members to reach his goals, and will often try to use cheap shots/underhanded tactics (even in fights) to do so. Hell, Loki was willing to kill some old, defenseless guy simply because he didn't want to kneel.
Loki doesn't try to kill his opponents right out of the gate so that is what is different between both he and Khan. That's my argument and it's consistent. Just let this thread die. Khan wins.

I've won.

Khan is more ruthless than Dr. Manhattan so Khan beats the Doc too.

Originally posted by juggerman
Khan is more ruthless than Dr. Manhattan so Khan beats the Doc too.

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Originally posted by juggerman
Khan is more ruthless than Dr. Manhattan so Khan beats the Doc too.
My statement didn't apply across the board it applied to Loki. This is misrepresenting my argument. Poor form.

Khan wins.