Kylo Ren vs. General Grievous

Started by carthage3 pages

Grievous takes him in his arms and adopts him as his son

Originally posted by ares834
Kylo freezes him and kills him.
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Originally posted by FreshestSlice
Grievous is superior in everything except the Force. They aren't even comparable.
Which tends to be a major factor in most of his losses...

Originally posted by Beniboybling
Which tends to be a major factor in most of his jobbings*...

*Fixed.

Originally posted by ares834
Kylo freezes him and kills him.

This is a grievous post and a grievous insult to the General.

Originally posted by Lord Stark
This is a grievous post and a grievous insult to the General.
Agreed, generally speaking.

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
Grievous is superior in everything except the Force. They aren't even comparable.
He force freezes him and ends him.

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
>freezes a *blaster bolt(not a laster)
>fails in literally everything else he does
He force froze people in the film. He also beat Finn after he showed off. He was also injured for the fight. Context. It matters.

Sabers: Grievous
Force & Sabers: Idk, maybe Ren

Kylo would lose sabers only, but in an all out fight I think he would win.

He freezed a faster target then Grievous (that laser bolt). He should be able to freeze the General, and then kills him. If not, then Greivous would stomp him in a duel, even if three of his hands would be cut off.

Originally posted by McP
He freezed a faster target then Grievous (that laser bolt). He should be able to freeze the General, and then kills him. If not, then Greivous would stomp him in a duel, even if three of his hands would be cut off.

Why is a blaster bolt faster than Grievous?

Kenobi can deflect blaster fire from an army of droids yet Grievous attacked him faster than he can think.

Attack speed =/= movement speed - Grievous has to get to him first

Originally posted by cs_zoltan
Why is a blaster bolt faster than Grievous?

Kenobi can deflect blaster fire from an army of droids yet Grievous attacked him faster than he can think.

Please do not tell me you're serious.

Originally posted by Beniboybling
Attack speed =/= movement speed - Grievous has to get to him first

Since he can dodge force powers and has teleport feats I don't see the problem. If anything Kylo has no feats that would suggest he doesn't get blitzed.

Kylo stopping a blaster bolt and an untrained force sensitive who didn't even know at the time she can use the force somehow means he can beat Grievous?
I guess Bastila can too then, right? Since she could use stasis on Revan's companions...

Originally posted by quanchi112
Please do not tell me you're serious.

Its a fair point though. Grievous overwhelms the defenses of Jedi with reactions similar to Kylo. He's casually dodged Force pushes before if we're counting legends feats. I do admit that canon Grievous will have a much harder time though.

Originally posted by Lord Stark
Its a fair point though. Grievous overwhelms the defenses of Jedi with reactions similar to Kylo. He's casually dodged Force pushes before if we're counting legends feats. I do admit that canon Grievous will have a much harder time though.
No, it isn't. I only argue canon. Grievous was hit by a force push and rather easily by Kenobi. He then attempted to flee since he's a giant coward.

Blaster bolts are faster than grievous. To suggest otherwise is living in a delusional fanboy world.

Originally posted by quanchi112
No, it isn't. I only argue canon. Grievous was hit by a force push and rather easily by Kenobi. He then attempted to flee since he's a giant coward.

Blaster bolts are faster than grievous. To suggest otherwise is living in a delusional fanboy world.

Quan, I can't tell you how little of a **** I give that you only argue canon. You're in a legends forum and you didn't specify in the OP what feats people should consider. And that's the end of that.

Grievous stomps.

Originally posted by Lord Stark
Quan, I can't tell you how little of a **** I give that you only argue canon. You're in a legends forum and you didn't specify in the OP what feats people should consider. And that's the end of that.

Grievous stomps.

Default rules are canon. Be familiar with the rules and don't lash out at me because you res upset. Everyone here knows I only argue canon as the rest doesn't count until Disney says so.

Kenobi force pushed him. Kylo force freezes him. Kylo would call you a traitor.

Originally posted by Lord Stark
Its a fair point though. Grievous overwhelms the defenses of Jedi with reactions similar to Kylo. He's casually dodged Force pushes before if we're counting legends feats. I do admit that canon Grievous will have a much harder time though.

Well, to be fair for this looser Kylo, we can't use his movie's version as example, while we're using CW!Grievous for example. That's not fair.
Grievous, as I remember, never dodged a Force push on screen (unlike Dooku in TCW S6). He also wasn't that fast as Stover's describes it. He would indeed be stomped in saber duel. The problem is, that he freezed a really fast targed. Much faster then Grievous. And, unlike even moderate Jedi Masters, Grievous has a little hope to be immune for that.