Kylo Ren vs. General Grievous

Started by Lord Stark3 pages

Originally posted by quanchi112
Default rules are canon. Be familiar with the rules and don't lash out at me because you res upset. Everyone here knows I only argue canon as the rest doesn't count until Disney says so.

Kenobi force pushed him. Kylo force freezes him. Kylo would call you a [B]traitor. [/B]

I'm not upset at all. 😆
I was mostly joking, but I didn't read the update, thanks for the heads up.

As for this thread, I dunno. I feel like if Kylo could simply freeze Grievous and kill him, what stopped him from doing that to Finn. It seems pretty clear that he prefers to use his saber, not dissimilar to Vader in the OT.

Originally posted by McP
Well, to be fair for this looser Kylo, we can't use his movie's version as example, while we're using CW!Grievous for example. That's not fair.
Grievous, as I remember, never dodged a Force push on screen (unlike Dooku in TCW S6). He also wasn't that fast as Stover's describes it. He would indeed be stomped in saber duel. The problem is, that he freezed a really fast targed. Much faster then Grievous. And, unlike even moderate Jedi Masters, Grievous has a little hope to be immune for that.

Padawans can react to blaster bolts. I don't see how it's even remotely impressive.

Originally posted by Lord Stark
I'm not upset at all. 😆
I was mostly joking, but I didn't read the update, thanks for the heads up.

As for this thread, I dunno. I feel like if Kylo could simply freeze Grievous and kill him, what stopped him from doing that to Finn. It seems pretty clear that he prefers to use his saber, not dissimilar to Vader in the OT.

He used both. He was full of rage and wanted to toy with him and best him with his saber which he did.

Originally posted by cs_zoltan
Padawans can react to blaster bolts. I don't see how it's even remotely impressive.

Allright. That doesn't change a fact, that Grievous' movement speed is slower then blaster bolt. So Kylo should be able to catch him. And then the fight is over.

Originally posted by cs_zoltan
Padawans can react to blaster bolts. I don't see how it's even remotely impressive.
Padawans can't freeze blasted bolts and go over own the guy then release the bolt. Five minutes into the film Kylo wowed the Star Wars universe. Now when he completes his training look the **** out.

Originally posted by McP
That doesn't change a fact, that Grievous' movement speed is slower then blaster bolt.

Doesn't matter. Kenobi can deflect blaster fire from an army yet Grievous was faster than him, attacking before he even realized what is happening. A padawan level of speed feat is hardly enough for Kylo.

So Kylo should be able to catch him. And then the fight is over.

Based on what? He stopped a blaster bolt and at the time an above avarage scavenger. Grievous' physicals dwarfs both of those. Implying that Kylo can employ stasis on anything without a force defense is ridiculous. Could he also stop an AT-AT? Nothing suggest that Kylo can restrain Grievous. Especially when he gets 20 strikes / second in his face.

Originally posted by quanchi112
He used both. He was full of rage and wanted to toy with him and best him with his saber which he did.

A fair point but my point is that if he tries the same shit with Grievous he won't get off with an arm wound, Grievous will **** him up.

Its easy to say 'Kylo freezes gg' but he has yet to demonstrate doing that mid saber battle.

At this point, Kylo has not shown his freezing ability during a saber duel. Should he show such ability in later movies, then Grievous no longer has a chance. As long as it's something Kylo has to concentrate on, however, he doesn't have that kind of time with 4 sabers coming at him. Even Obi Wan spends most of his time reducing the enemy's saber count before doing anything else.

Ren can and should win via Force, like any other self-respecting Force user.

Originally posted by Angelalex242
At this point, Kylo has not shown his freezing ability during a saber duel. Should he show such ability in later movies, then Grievous no longer has a chance. As long as it's something Kylo has to concentrate on, however, he doesn't have that kind of time with 4 sabers coming at him. Even Obi Wan spends most of his time reducing the enemy's saber count before doing anything else.

Pretty much this.