Disney will never surpass the EU.

Originally posted by Gambler
Marvel isn't capable to write a decent SW comic book or is it the new story group, that runs the show?

Yep they are good are drawing big Leilia slave boobs (if you watch the desk of death battle you will know what I mean, we all know that larvel produce a lot of comic for 15 -25 MALE teenager adult, and we all know what it give)

Or making some fan service by spaming IT character shit.

But when it's about to take some risk, and do something new and original... Nope nobody is there ! And when they try to do something original they just copy the EU !

Same thing for JJ abrhams, O.K making The froce awaken a good movie without falling too much in the OT fanservice that was a pure miracle, O.K the stasis a blaster bolt was cool, the mental tortrue scene were intense and original. O.K the first actions when they escape Jabou are rgeat..

But after this I'm just watching a 2015 version of episode IV and V ! Because the only thing that JJ abrahams is good at, is making copy of some style.

+The movie never stop, it's dynamic O.K but it never stop, even in cooldown moment it feel like it is not stopping, it even make me regret Georges Lucas clumsy paw, that make everything slow and boring (It is not just the prequel it is the entire 6 movies ! That are just like that !)
Because it was bringing some cooldowntime, that let to great character devloppement.

And the two next movie are gonna be made some YESMEN some YES MONEEHMONEEH MEN

In the end where the EU was cappble of creating some new death stars (the star forge) some enw emperor palpatine (Vitiate) without making you having this feel of déjà vu, this feel of cheap copy paste and upgrade to 2015 standards.
Disney have shown quasi incappble of doing that agin, because of their decision....

And Ha yhea O.T character are lame, they are 70s character that are not able to die whatsoever if they are the good guys ! After episode VI that have been confirmed.
Han solo is one dimentionnal character, just your classic space cow-boy well acted, the only media where I saw him being a good character is at the end of EaW rebel campaign !
Harrisson Ford hate him he prefer play indiana, Jones he ask to leave star wars at episode V that's why he go with in teh carbonite and die in episode VII, he was not even willing to play episode VI or VII, but a nice money wallet and the promise of a new indiana Jones roles make him change his mind twice !

Luke should have fallen to the Dark side.

Ooops wrong section.. Foock.. Modo? Modo? Can you....

Han Solo > Revan as a character

Perhaps. But I wouldn't be so sure, Revan is, along with Quinlan Vos, one of the most interesting characters in the EU. And his way to the Dark Side is one of them most reasonable and believeable. Not like Starkiller: "im bad, i'm good, i'm bad, i'm good" etc etc.

TFA was pretty much a masterpiece, nearly up to par with the OG Trilogy, you'd be hardpressed to find someone who disliked it.

Originally posted by Jmanghan
you'd be hardpressed to find someone who disliked it.

Lol, no.

Originally posted by Jmanghan
TFA was pretty much a masterpiece, nearly up to par with the OG Trilogy, you'd be hardpressed to find someone who disliked it.

With a 95% on Rotten Tomatoes, its pretty damned close lol

Originally posted by Revanchiste
And Ha yhea O.T character are lame, they are 70s character that are not able to die whatsoever if they are the good guys ! After episode VI that have been confirmed.
Han solo is one dimentionnal character, just your classic space cow-boy well acted, the only media where I saw him being a good character is at the end of EaW rebel campaign !
Harrisson Ford hate him he prefer play indiana, Jones he ask to leave star wars at episode V that's why he go with in teh carbonite and die in episode VII, he was not even willing to play episode VI or VII, but a nice money wallet and the promise of a new indiana Jones roles make him change his mind twice !

Luke should have fallen to the Dark side.

I agree with your original post, but not with this one. Original Trilogy surpasses everything. Han Solo is Han Solo. I read in an interview that Harrison Ford acknowledged that he was wrong about wanting Han to die in ROTJ. I didn't like how he was killed off in TFA. He should have gone out in a space battle or any other reckless way.

But, yeah, Marvel/Disney isn't capable to keep up with Dark Horse comics. They missed a great opportunity to make it even bigger thing by deleting Expanded Universe. Terrible choice, terrible management. Even Lucas, although did terrible things to EU, allowed it to flourish. He knew what was necessary to keep SW alive.

Originally posted by Jmanghan
TFA was pretty much a masterpiece, nearly up to par with the OG Trilogy, you'd be hardpressed to find someone who disliked it.

Originally posted by McP
Perhaps. But I wouldn't be so sure, Revan is, along with Quinlan Vos, one of the most interesting characters in the EU. And his way to the Dark Side is one of them most reasonable and believeable. Not like Starkiller: "im bad, i'm good, i'm bad, i'm good" etc etc.

Uh, no... That's exactly what Revan is like.

Originally posted by Jmanghan
TFA was pretty much a masterpiece, nearly up to par with the OG Trilogy, you'd be hardpressed to find someone who disliked it.

Originally posted by Gambler
It cannot be a masterpiece, because it copied ANH. If the story was original, then maybe, yes, but we've seen it before.

Anyway, TFA is already better than most of the EU. It was utter garbage for the most part.

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
That's not what masterpiece means. And most of the EU was riding off the OT anyway, way longer than it should have.

Anyway, TFA is already better than most of the EU. It was utter garbage for the most part.

Apparently you're unfamiliar with EU. TFA basically ripped it off. Nothing original at all, except for Rey's story. OT was masterpiece.

Just like KotOR ripped off the OT, but no one seems to complain about that either and most generally label it as the best SW game ever?

TFA was the best SW film. 10/10.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Just like KotOR ripped off the OT, but no one seems to complain about that either and most generally label it as the best SW game ever?

TFA was the best SW film. 10/10.

With Star Forge? The concept was similar yet original. It was no super weapon. KotOR introduced idea of Jedi temples scattered across the Galaxy. Besides Star Forge the rest was something new, that was the reason the era became so popular. Kotor successfully borrowed the adventure, travel concept, which is not a rip-off. It's what Star Wars is.

Originally posted by Gambler
Apparently you're unfamiliar with EU. TFA basically ripped it off. Nothing original at all, except for Rey's story. OT was masterpiece.

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
Right that's why every villain is Palpatine or Vader, everything concerns Luke, and the Jedi are constantly destroyed, with a new Sith Empire in control. Because the EU is nothing like the OT.

And TFA isn't? There are many EU stories. Some are quite original, some are cheap OT rip-offs. TFA had a chance to go the original way, but they chose to rehash instead.

The difference is TFA is good. Like Ant said. Most of the EU? Not so much.