Disney will never surpass the EU.

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Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Spoilers are to be expected when browsing through a place specifically made for people to discuss Star Wars.

We have specific spoiler threads at this point, though. It's still the first week, assuming everyone knows is a jerk move.

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
Who cares if it's an ANH rip-off? That doesn't make or break a movie. There are no new stories under the son. The Force Awakens is good because it's good. The EU was always shit. It didn't become shit when TFA premiered, or when Lucas sold Star Wars. The fact that it's older doesn't make it better. And yes, it had good and bad stories. Mostly bad. Which is why I said it was shit. Literally the only thing I can thank the EU for is keeping Star Wars alive until BioWare could make KotOR and Lucas and Filoni could make TCW.
KOTOR is one of the best RPG's of all time.

Kyle Katarn is badass, Darth Bane, Revan, Nihilus.

Also, the best thing to come out of the EU was The Old Republic era.

Originally posted by Jmanghan
SPOILERS? YOU ****ING DOUCHEBAG.

Spoiler:
HEY GUYS, SOLO DIES!!!
Right, because anybody who hadn't noticed that certainly has now.

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Originally posted by Jmanghan
KOTOR is one of the best RPG's of all time.

Kyle Katarn is badass, Darth Bane, Revan, Nihilus.

Also, the best thing to come out of the EU was The Old Republic era.


That's great. I never said it wasn't a good game, although "one of the best RPGs of all time." is lulzworthy given BioWare has made better games before and since.

Kyle's cool, but that rest of that list is laughable at best.

Yeah. That's not a good thing.

Originally posted by Gambler
With Star Forge? The concept was similar yet original. It was no super weapon. KotOR introduced idea of Jedi temples scattered across the Galaxy. Besides Star Forge the rest was something new, that was the reason the era became so popular. Kotor successfully borrowed the adventure, travel concept, which is not a rip-off. It's what Star Wars is.

That's not true. KotOR and TFA are both heavily inspired by the original Star Wars trilogy. The whole premise of KotOR is to reflect the SW trilogy. You had somebody who learns of his affinity with the Force and grows at a preposterously fast rate, you had a Vader-esque villain in Malak, you had a super space station that you fought the villain in (the Star Forge compared with the Death Star), you had a shocking plot twist, the allied Jedi who sacrifices themself for your escape from the villain, you had elements of redemption, etc. And then there are more minor things like Vandar being Yoda, the fleet battle destroying the space station at the end, and even the companions are inspired from the OT characters. You can honestly argue that KotOR ripped off from the OT even more than TFA did, but that's besides the point; that's what they were meant to do - to evoke the feeling of the original Star Wars, and that's why both were very well received (critically and commercially).

Originally posted by Q99
We have specific spoiler threads at this point, though. It's still the first week, assuming everyone knows is a jerk move.

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Originally posted by Jmanghan
SPOILERS? YOU ****ING DOUCHEBAG.

Spoiler:
HEY GUYS, SOLO DIES!!!

^ I added the spoiler tag for you.

Because you just shouted out a HUGE spoiler yourself.

Originally posted by Jmanghan
This movie almost got a 100% on Rotten Tomatoes.

I haven't seen a single bad review, and I'm sure the score will be the same 10 years from now.

Its just a really good movie.

Dude seriously That's lame, letting Critics and other movie reviewers Decide how good the movie is.

Originally posted by Beniboybling
Right, because anybody who hadn't noticed that certainly has now.

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Did that out of sarcasm, if someone got to my post, they certainly already read his.

You guys are ****ing idiots.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
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^ I added the spoiler tag for you.

Because you just shouted out a HUGE spoiler yourself.

Dude seriously That's lame, letting Critics and other movie reviewers Decide how good the movie is.


He spoiled it too, if they saw my post, they definitely already saw his.

Lol, no, thats normal, critics are people that get paid to review movies, that is their job, but you know, its fine. You and Gambler's opinion > Pro Critics like IMDB, MetaCritic, RottenTomatoes.

What fantasy land do you live in, dude?

> Bioware

> One of the best RPG's of all time

> Not happening, expect maybe with certain games that aren't KOTOR

Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
> Bioware

> One of the best RPG's of all time

> Not happening, expect maybe with certain games that aren't KOTOR

Universal Acclaim >>>>>>>> Dog Shit >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Your Opinion.

KOTOR gets compared to Mass Effect a lot more then you'd think.

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Originally posted by Trocity
Mad-O-Meter:

You

Blind with Rage

Livid

Mad

Tad Bit Upset

Ok

Nah, you just have to act like a douche to get your point across sometimes.

Originally posted by Jmanghan
Universal Acclaim >>>>>>>> Dog Shit >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Your Opinion.

KOTOR gets compared to Mass Effect a lot more then you'd think.


Universal acclaim? Kek.

You think that's a good thing? I'm not sure why you haven't gotten that BioWare has been telling this story since Baldur's Gate yet. Of course KotOR is compared to Mass Effect. They're the exact same game and they're made by the exact same people.

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
Universal acclaim? Kek.

You think that's a good thing? I'm not sure why you haven't gotten that BioWare has been telling this story since Baldur's Gate yet. Of course KotOR is compared to Mass Effect. They're the exact same game and they're made by the exact same people.

Tell me someone besides Square Enix who puts out the type of quality games that Bioware does.

KOTOR is considered the best Star Wars game by pretty much everyone, the only games that rival it are Jedi Academy, and Battlefront II.

Its okay if you have a different opinion, just don't try to downplay it and act like the game isn't universally loved, because it is. It has been since 2003.

Originally posted by Jmanghan
Tell me someone besides Square Enix who puts out the type of quality games that Bioware does.

I bust a gut at SE releasing quality games, because they haven't released a quality game since Kingdom Hearts II, and that's a convoluted mess that gives ulcers. Anyway:

Bethesda, Obsidian, Paradox, etc. The fact that BioWare focuses on characters doesn't make their games of a higher quality. I could name a few shooters of "higher quality" than most recent BioWare games because they actually accomplished what they set out to.


KOTOR is considered the best Star Wars game by pretty much everyone, the only games that rival it are Jedi Academy, and Battlefront II.

Yeah, if you haven't noticed, there aren't that many great Star Wars games, but I'll address more of that below.

Its okay if you have a different opinion, just don't try to downplay it and act like the game isn't universally loved, because it is. It has been since 2003.

Like I said, besides the fact that Star Wars has been in a game drought for about 10 years or so, you're making a lot of assumptions based off of randoms on the internet. Knights of the Old Republic was certainly popular and a quality game for it's time, but it's influence on the gaming community as a whole is nowhere near as large as you're making it out to be, not to mention that again, this wasn't even the point I was making. KotOR is just another retelling of Baldur's Gate with shitty gameplay and an okay cast. It's far from "one of the best RPG's of all time." It's not even in the top ten if you ask me; TOR is a better roleplaying game, for that matter, and it's an MMO.

One key difference....

Spoiler:
In the EU, Luke is a demigodlike badass. In Episode 7, he's a loser who utterly failed miserably at bringing back the Jedi Order and then ran off to a deserted island planet to meditate on how much he sucks.

Just came up with a theory that they deliberately sabotaged SWTOR to make the new Canon look good by comparison.

My theory: you're retarded. 🙂

Originally posted by Beniboybling
My theory: you're retarded. 🙂
How enlightening.