Kylo vs Sidious

Originally posted by quanchi112
Yoda still wasn't in his prime either. Without the force Yoda needs a cane for gait. He was more powerful in the force as was Sidious so this explains why they were better. They were much more powerful in the force.

Maul bested him in the clone wars series which is canon despite just getting back new robotic legs multiple times.

Did you watch the clone wars series ?

Yeah, just what I explained: With the Force, these guys are hardly "out of their prime" as you claimed. They're doing flips and such just like Maul.

Originally posted by Robtard
Stop with the nonsense baiting and grow a pair.

All in all we don't know. Plagueis might have been. One ability alone does not necessarily mean a Force-user is more powerful. It's possible and I wouldn't be surprised, but we don't know. In the end, Palpatine accomplished setting himself up as the head of a galactic-wide empire in part by manipulating the Force; that's damn impressive.

"The dark side clouds everything. Impossible to see the future is." - Yoda

Palpatine already made it clear. If he is still alive this will cement Palpatine as either a pawn or a failure. Stay tuned.

Originally posted by Robtard
Yeah, just what I explained: With the Force, these guys are hardly "out of their prime" as you claimed. They're doing flips and such just like Maul.

Doing a flip doesn't denote quicker speed at all IMO.

Or possibly Plagueis was able to bring himself back after death. We don't know though, we don't even know if Snoke is actually Plagueis. Wouldn't surprise me if he is.

As of right now, it seems Palpatine (arguably Yoda his match)was the most powerful, only because Anakin never reached his full potential due to injuries and mind ****ing.

Originally posted by Robtard
Or possibly Plagueis was able to bring himself back after death. We don't know though, we don't even know if Snoke is actually Plagueis. Wouldn't surprise me if he is.

As of right now, it seems Palpatine (arguably Yoda his match)was the most powerful, only because Anakin never reached his full potential due to injuries and mind ****ing.

I'm saying Snoke will be. Stay tuned. You heard it here first.

The screenrant article was posted in the ep7 thread long ago with the speculation, so you're just doing your silly ego-thing again.

How is Plagueis resurrecting himself a failure for Palpatine? That's just being silly, I understand you dislike the character, but that's a stupid reason to shit on a character.

Anyhow, on topic: Sidious > Kylo, it's obvious

Originally posted by quanchi112
Look at his movement speed against Qui and Kenobi. He's a lot quicker than Dooku is. Dooku is an older man out of his prime. Maul was also deemed a rival per Sidious.

I'm not disagreeing, I think Maul did show some impressive speed feats. Only thing that let him down though, was the fact that Kenobi slowly jumped out of that reactor shaft and then killed Maul or incapacitated him I guess, the way Maul moved he should've been able to kill Kenobi as he was at least mid jump.

Snoke being Plagueis shits all over Palpatine. It's part of the reason why I'm against the idea.

Originally posted by quanchi112

In the clone wars series he was held hostage by Hondo the pirate. A truly awful and embarrassing showing for a Sith Lord

Originally posted by ares834
Snoke being Plagueis shits all over Palpatine. It's part of the reason why I'm against the idea.

If they go that path, I'd suspect they'd do it so Plagueis came back from death decades later and stayed in the shadows, recouping, instead of being the real big-bad behind ep 1-6. Cos that would be silly writing.

Originally posted by juggernaut74
Didn't Maul and his brother run from Hondo and his boys?

YouTube video

Originally posted by Robtard
The screenrant article was posted in the ep7 thread long ago with the speculation, so you're just doing your silly ego-thing again.

How is Plagueis resurrecting himself a failure for Palpatine? That's just being silly, I understand you dislike the character, but that's a stupid reason to shit on a character.

Anyhow, on topic: Sidious > Kylo, it's obvious

Palpatine is one of my Star Wars faves. I predicted Snoke will be his better. You feel otherwise. I also predicted Kylo

Spoiler:
by killing a family member that Vader was unable to do. I was right as rain.

Originally posted by juggernaut74
Didn't Maul and his brother run from Hondo and his boys?

Originally posted by Robtard
If they go that path, I'd suspect they'd do it so Plagueis came back from death decades later and stayed in the shadows, recouping, instead of being the real big-bad behind ep 1-6. Cos that would be silly writing.

Even then we are left with a Palpatine so impotent that he failed to kill his master and that Plagueis managed to fool him.

Originally posted by Robtard
YouTube video

😂

And then in the comics you have Vader soloing entire Rebel armies.

Originally posted by quanchi112
He was confident that he could save others but not himself despite knowing of this ability of his.

Palpatine is one of my Star Wars faves. I predicted Snoke will be his better. You feel otherwise. I also predicted Kylo

Spoiler:
by killing a family member that Vader was unable to do. I was right as rain.

Predicting things AFTER they've happened isn't really a prediction. Just saying.

Originally posted by ares834
Even then we are left with a Palpatine so impotent that he failed to kill his master and that Plagueis managed to fool him.

Well could kind of make sense considering Maul could survive getting chopped in 2, which Sidious didn't suspect either.

Originally posted by ares834
Even then we are left with a Palpatine so impotent that he failed to kill his master and that Plagueis managed to fool him.

😂

And then in the comics you have Vader soloing entire Rebel armies.

This would be Plagueis coming back from death. So Palpatine still killed him. But yeah, if it's written that he survived and was in the shadows manipulating, that would be shit. Shit all over ep1-6

TBF, Vader is a total badass 😛

Originally posted by Robtard
Predicting things AFTER they've happened isn't really a prediction. Just saying.

Originally posted by Robtard
This would be Plagueis coming back from death. So Palpatine still killed him. But yeah, if it's written that he survived and was in the shadows manipulating, that would be shit. Shit all over ep1-6

TBF, Vader is a total badass 😛

Originally posted by quanchi112
Maul bested him in the clone wars series which is canon despite just getting back new robotic legs multiple times.

Did you watch the clone wars series ?

I guess it was silly from me to come to a Movie versus forum and argue just about the movies.

I don't care about this series enough to watch secondary stories catered for fanboys.