Originally posted by SurturIf you don't have any evidence you're just making it up. It's out of character. It isn't you as Vader it is what the character is likely to do with their powers. This isn't cbr.
But it doesn't have to be slow though. Vader slowly chokes them to death to make them suffer. We've seen his TK is strong enough to easily crush metal. So there is no reason he couldn't just apply the full pressure of his TK to Iron Man's windpipe, he doesn't have to slowly choke him out.With that said I think this comes down to whoever gets off their power first.
Originally posted by NotAllThatEvilHe has a chip on is shoulder but he wants to finish Vader's mission. He died as Anakin because he was too weak to remain in the dark side.
Kylo wants to one day grow up to be as big and strong as granddaddy vader. So no, vader and kylo are on completely different levels.
Originally posted by quanchi112
If you don't have any evidence you're just making it up. It's out of character. It isn't you as Vader it is what the character is likely to do with their powers. This isn't cbr.
But we do have evidence. We have seen him crush metal. We have seen him use TK to target specific parts of the body. Therefore there would be nothing stopping him from applying full force to the windpipe of someone.
Also if you really want to play this silly game then you should be replying to every single person saying "force choke ftw!" since the guy doesn't tend to begin a fight with force choke.
Originally posted by SurturWe have seen Dooku crush the environment so why didn't he crush Yoda ? We know they can force choke each other. We see Dooku force choke Kenobi and he wanted to kill him so why not kill him instantly.
But we do have evidence. We have seen him crush metal. We have seen him use TK to target specific parts of the body. Therefore there would be nothing stopping him from applying full force to the windpipe of someone.Also if you really want to play this silly game then you should be replying to every single person saying "force choke ftw!" since the guy doesn't tend to begin a fight with force choke.
It's a silly time taking tactic. It's funny to see how biased posters are for weak Vader.
Originally posted by SurturYes, it is. We see Vader couldn't kill his own son but he could kill kids. Your opinion doesn't matter as Vader clearly couldn't kill his own son. That was more evil to him and something he couldn't do. Game, set, match.
Doing that isn't actually worse then killing innocent children. When it comes to evil acts Vader has done worse on screen.
Originally posted by quanchi112
We have seen Dooku crush the environment so why didn't he crush Yoda ? We know they can force choke each other. We see Dooku force choke Kenobi and he wanted to kill him so why not kill him instantly.It's a silly time taking tactic. It's funny to see how biased posters are for weak Vader.
Yoda was a force user of equal or greater power. You also seem to equate bad writing with..what? You haven't actually given a reason why Vader couldn't apply enough force to crush a normal humans windpipe quickly.
Originally posted by NotAllThatEvil
Vader does tend to lead with the force choke. Padme, moffs, three seperate admirals. If vader wants you dead, he chokes you. If he just wants to play around, its the saber.
So just to be clear he was battling Padme? And those other officers he force choked? If he was in a fight with them and lead with that then what you just said would have more merit.
He uses force choke to punish. He punished Padme for bringing Obi Wan, he punished people for failing him. That is a far cry from "Vader will instantly use force choke in a battle".
Originally posted by NotAllThatEvilHe didn't want Padme dead. None of those were examples of battles with warriors. 😂
Vader does tend to lead with the force choke. Padme, moffs, three seperate admirals. If vader wants you dead, he chokes you. If he just wants to play around, its the saber.
Half of them weren't even in the same room or could defend themselves either.
Originally posted by SurturDooku force choked Kenobi and he's greater in the force than Kenobi. I have you. You making shit up isn't debating. You don't get to make shit up. We see Dooku admit he's got greater force powers and fail to insta kill Kenobi. Saying something is bad writing is ignoring the facts with your biased opinion.
Yoda was a force user of equal or greater power. You also seem to equate bad writing with..what? You haven't actually given a reason why Vader couldn't apply enough force to crush a normal humans windpipe quickly.
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Originally posted by quanchi112
Yes, it is. We see Vader couldn't kill his own son but he could kill kids. Your opinion doesn't matter as Vader clearly couldn't kill his own son. That was more evil to him and something he couldn't do. Game, set, match.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Yes, it is. We see Vader couldn't kill his own son but he could kill kids. Your opinion doesn't matter as Vader clearly couldn't kill his own son. That was more evil to him and something he couldn't do. Game, set, match.
Your logic just doesn't make sense though. Killing innocent kids is pretty messed up. The fact Vader couldn't kill his own child shows..what? Why do people always act like being evil=being emotionless. So whenever an evil person protects a person close to them it suddenly means they are partly good. Evil people love their kids too.
Also keep in mind Palpatine had just encouraged Luke to kill Vader. Vader also planned to turn his son evil and rule the galaxy with him.
Originally posted by SurturHe couldn't kill a family member. He went back to the light. The kids weren't his own kids. He also felt the Jedi were against him and agreed they should be slaughtered. He went back to the light and as a Jedi. That isn't evil, sport.
Your logic just doesn't make sense though. Killing innocent kids is pretty messed up. The fact Vader couldn't kill his own child shows..what? Why do people always act like being evil=being emotionless. So whenever an evil person protects a person close to them it suddenly means they are partly good. Evil people love their kids too.
Originally posted by quanchi112
He couldn't kill a family member. He went back to the light. The kids weren't his own kids. He also felt the Jedi were against him and agreed they should be slaughtered. He went back to the light and as a Jedi. That isn't evil, sport.
You keep defending this with "they weren't his own kids". Uh that shouldn't matter. Yes, he isn't a complete dick and didn't like seeing his own child tortured by the guy he had..willingly decided to bring Luke to in the first place.
I'm not saying he didn't have a smidge of good, just that his evil acts were worse. Killing family isn't always the worst thing you can possibly do, the murder of many children is worse to me.