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Originally posted by DarthAnt66They then call the technqiues and math we use to see the stars and calculate their distances flawed and false. Anything to make it fit in with their paradigm.
What's their rebuttals about light and how it would be impossible to see anything beyond the, IIRC, Crab Nebula like Neil mentioned in Cosmos?
"Dismay that the Universe does not conform to our preferences seems childish. You might think that grown-ups would be ashamed to put such disappointments into print. The fashionable way of doing this is not to blame the Universe—which seems truly pointless—but rather to blame the means by which we know the Universe, namely science."
Originally posted by DarthAnt66
@Surtur: Well hopefully they also comment to voice their "reasoning" why.People here don't seem to be that shy about their views ...
Actually, I've found nearly every pro-religion person, with perhaps 3 exceptions, to be EXTREMELY reluctant to share their point of view on this forum. It is rather the atheists and agnostics that are bold to express an opinion.
In answer to the thread question, I'm made to wonder how people supposedly have so much confidence in knowing what happened centuries ago, especially given that fields like archaeology have famous hoaxes attributed to them.
Then again, I've yet to work out where people keep getting the number 6,000 from. I'd be interested in someone explaining why that number is so oft quoted.
If you're serious about this, though, I am MOST interested in how you will respond to the following. It is the work of a man who does NOT believe in God, and, indeed, considers that all major deities and mythology derive from observations of ancient peoples. He poses one of the most nagging questions I've seen: How did planets exert SO very much influence over people in the past in the eras BEFORE telescopes and magnifying lenses made them easily visible?
This is at once part of the most serious challenge I've seen both to popular conceptions of how our universe actually works in terms of actual physics AND the most serious challenge I've seen to religion in the past 2 years:
http://m.disclose.tv/action/viewvideo/176247/Remembering_The_End_Of_The_WorldFull_Documentary/
Originally posted by bluewaterrider
In answer to the thread question, I'm made to wonder how people supposedly have so much confidence in knowing what happened centuries ago, especially given that fields like archaeology have famous hoaxes attributed to them.
Just to be clear you also wonder this whenever you see any religious person being sure about Jesus and God and all that shit, correct? Like when you see Star post about "irrefutable" evidence of the Red Sea crossing..surely this must cross your mind? Or whenever people insist the bible is a true story?
If you're serious about this, though, I am MOST interested in how you will respond to the following. It is the work of a man who does NOT believe in God, and, indeed, considers that all major deities and mythology derive from observations of ancient peoples. He poses one of the most nagging questions I've seen: How did planets exert SO very much influence over people in the past in the eras BEFORE telescopes and magnifying lenses made them easily visible?This is at once part of the most serious challenge I've seen both to popular conceptions of how our universe actually works in terms of actual physics AND the most serious challenge I've seen to religion in the past 2 years:
Thing is though..questioning if we truly 100% understand everything about the universe(we don't, scientists admit this) doesn't really equate to any kind of divine influence or deity being involved in anything.
Sorry, but Intelligent design is the ONLY thing that makes any sense whatsoever. I'm not going to rehash this whole argument over again. I've posted plenty of links to articles recently in other threads that explain why evolution is nothing but utter nonsense. Course, atheists never bother to read them because they have no interest in reading anything that might prove they've been wrong all along. So instead they just hurl insults and mock believers instead of learning the truth. Then, they make a thread like this and when someone says evolution is a lie they shout "prove it!", AGAIN. LOL. FFS, it's been proven several times over but you atheists prefer to stick your fingers in your ears and close your eyes to the evidence that unequivocally proves evolution is the biggest deception ever used on mankind.
As for exactly how old the earth is, I don't think anybody can really say for sure. The so-called "fossil record" and the method used to date bones and/or fossils is a joke that relies on circular logic and the assumption that evolution is real. I'm not quite sure how old the earth is but I"m quite certain that humans as we know them today originated about 6000 years ago with Adam and Eve. The "neanderthal man" is a lie.