There are *known settlements and civilizations* older than 6,000.
Predynastic ancient Egypt goes back 8,000+ years. They had ships, and drew art of said ships, that far back. It's quite impressive to be a civilization who's roots are older than the universe, don't you think?
We also have more primitive settlements, caves and such, which show much older signs of habitation.
StarThe speaker in that video is an extremely smart guy who has studied both science and religion. If you're not interested in hearing him talk about the Bible then just fast forward to about the 2:00 mark in video. He starts giving many scientific common sense reasons why macro-evolution is stupid. He starts by breaking down the six different types of evolution:
1. Cosmic evolution
2. chemical evolution
3. Stellar and planetary evolution
4. organic evolution
5. macro-evolution
6. micro-evolution
Fun fact: Most of these have little to do with what actual evolution scientists talk about is. They're what someone who had a perception of what evolution is, but not with how people who discuss the subjects use it.
Macro vs micro? That's an arbitrary, made-up line. Stuff is supposed to just change to a certain extent and some mechanism keeps a bunch of small changes from adding up to big ones? That's silly.
We've observed new species splitting off and getting new characteristics in recent timeframes, and we have fossil chains showing very complete progressions of major transformation, as well as DNA evidence of living species showing that X split off from Y, and the related physical characteristics that'd tell us the same thing even if we didn't have DNA testing to check. I could tell you so much about orchid evolution!
Oh, I agree but just wanted to show that there's a lot more than just that one point you're referring to that proves evolution is nothing more than a religion. The speaker in that video exposes at least a hundred holes in evolutionary so-called "theory".
'Nothing more'? You say that as if you thought religions were no big thing, which does not fit with what I know of you.
And one of the real big things about evolution- It can be independently discovered. One does not have to know about evolution from elsewhere, one can discover it through study without hearing of it- and interestingly, one can discover it coming from a variety of ways. A geneticist would discover it surely as someone who studied physical characteristics of living animals, as would a paleontologist looking at fossilized bones.
Multiple different fields will all come to the same conclusion via very different methods. That's part of the beauty of it, one field can check something and another can confirm it. It's got predictive power.
There was a species missing in a development chain at one point. Scientists said, "Hm, it should be lake dwelling, and judging from what rate it developed... around this era. Anyone know rocks of that era where there used to be lakes?" "Yep." And they found it, exactly where they predicted it'd be.
Originally posted by Tattoos N Scars
You don't really need all of that. They can't prove abiogenesis in the origin of life theory. Too many gaps missing for them to successfully reproduce it in a controlled experiment and have it become visble enough to eventually make a life form. We have no clue what the exact conditions were like at that time that made life possible. In that point, there is not much for them to argue against intelligent design.
Basically, we can reproduce it in a lab by reproducing conditions that can exist in nature, and prove that abiogenesis is possible- has happened, after all- but we do not know the precise circumstances of the abiogenesis, there could be several different ways for abiogenesis to occur.
However, the existence of abiogenesis itself is a hammerblow to Intelligence Design. It shows that an intelligence is not required.
Originally posted by Emperordmb
I came into this thread expecting not to like Star or Surtur...Was not disappointed.
Yes I know some folks hate facts. Here is some kryptonite for you dawg: 1+1 equals twoooooooooo! Does it burn? Is your blood boiling?
Sometimes there are 29 days in February! Oh shit! Oh shit, does it hurt? Aloe vera helps out with burns. By the way the capital of Illinois is Springfield..damn sorry, use some cold water on that.