Black Panther Vs DCnu Bane

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Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Because they attack 'internally', for want of a better word.

Batarangs? If I had a tough enough suit of armour, or was durable enough, they'd explode/bounce off harmlessly.

If I had a high enough damage soak (or was just that bloody minded), then I could conceivably tank a few. Hell, they have real world people now who can, when high/drunk, tank a taser shot or two. Against Punisher, for example? Deadpool? The acid would hurt like hell, but you'd better pray that it puts them down in one shot, because they'll be pissed as hell.

An energy dagger, on the other hand? Scrambles your brains. Bypasses physical durability (as shown with Ultron) and goes straight for your nervous system. Like a taser, but internally, on your brain.

In this thread, as tough as Bane is externally, I haven't seen his internal durability, as it were.

Energy daggers are just that - daggers. They're glorified projectiles. They don't really bring any kind of versatility. If you have 10 opponents attacking you at once? Batarangs have got you covered.
http://s289.photobucket.com/user/darknight2k/media/Standard%20Advanced%20Prep%20Time/batman38-batfoambarrier.jpg.html

Did you say something about the central nervous system being attacked? Batman has special batarangs for that, too, for Solomon Grundy level opponents:
http://s289.photobucket.com/user/darknight2k/media/batazerang1.jpg.html

Remember Namor vs Black Panther? Some versatility would have sure come in handy. Batman would have dried him up instantly:
http://s289.photobucket.com/user/darknight2k/media/bat%20pics%202/gothamsirens24-heatarang2.jpg.html

Black Panther vs Wolverine? How about some magnetic batarangs:
http://s289.photobucket.com/user/darknight2k/media/Standard%20Advanced%20Prep%20Time/greenlantern16-magnetbatarang.jpg.html

This would also be good for disharming any opponent. Remember Deadpool? Punisher?

Ghosts? Intangiblity? Batarangs have got you covered, too:
http://s289.photobucket.com/user/darknight2k/media/Standard%20Advanced%20Prep%20Time/batmaneternal6-nthmetalbatarang1.jpg.html
http://s289.photobucket.com/user/darknight2k/media/Standard%20Advanced%20Prep%20Time/batmaneternal6-nthmetalbatarang2.jpg.html

Large scaled opponents? JLA threats? Batarangs have got you covered there, too:
http://s289.photobucket.com/user/darknight2k/media/batfuserang1.jpg.html
http://s289.photobucket.com/user/darknight2k/media/batfuserang2.jpg.html
http://s289.photobucket.com/user/darknight2k/media/batfuserang3.jpg.html

That would one-shot Punisher and Deadpool combined. 🙂

I'm sure you've seen this scans, which makes this even more baffling.
The daggers have absolutely nothing on the batarangs.
The above display of raw power is above anything Black Panther's daggers have ever shown.
The above display of versatility is above anything Black Panther's daggers have ever shown.

This is not even discussable.

Energy daggers are just that - daggers. They're glorified projectiles. They don't really bring any kind of versatility. If you have 10 opponents attacking you at once? Batarangs have got you covered.
http://s289.photobucket.com/user/da...arrier.jpg.html

Or, 18 opponents 😛
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/0/7604/1072237-black_panther_v2_60_019.jpg


Did you say something about the central nervous system being attacked? Batman has special batarangs for that, too, for Solomon Grundy level opponents:
http://s289.photobucket.com/user/da...erang1.jpg.html

Not DCnU. This may sound like me being a d!ck, but they ARE different. D!ckishness would be me insisting on BatGordon lol.


Remember Namor vs Black Panther? Some versatility would have sure come in handy. Batman would have dried him up instantly:
http://s289.photobucket.com/user/da...arang2.jpg.html

That's like me using Shuri Panther's tech:
http://i715.photobucket.com/albums/ww156/ankur2113/BP_011_Headshot_CPS_016.jpg

But yes, he DID use some kinda weird tech to weaken Namor first:
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/8/80103/4059411-4293885992-40125.jpg


Black Panther vs Wolverine? How about some magnetic batarangs:
http://s289.photobucket.com/user/da...tarang.jpg.html

DCU, again. DCnU HAS used magnetised pellets (see the list I posted) but I wasn't sure if he prepped for that metal gang.


Ghosts? Intangiblity? Batarangs have got you covered, too:
http://s289.photobucket.com/user/da...arang1.jpg.html
http://s289.photobucket.com/user/da...arang2.jpg.html

We've covered Nth metal.


Large scaled opponents? JLA threats? Batarangs have got you covered there, too:
http://s289.photobucket.com/user/da...erang1.jpg.html
http://s289.photobucket.com/user/da...erang2.jpg.html
http://s289.photobucket.com/user/da...erang3.jpg.html

DCU, again, but I've already said explosives went to Batman. But I would NOT say that those rangs have greater damage output than the ENTIRE JLA. Horse for courses, I just don't think external durability is the same as internal durability (internal is usually much lower) and being able to completely negate external durability is pretty potent.

The daggers can also cut forcefields:
http://i.imgur.com/G5ajgL1.jpg

And disable them:
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/0/7604/1279384-blackpanther42p20.jpg

Ultron scan:
http://i.imgur.com/Nk6JuYg.jpg

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Or, 18 opponents 😛
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/0/7604/1072237-black_panther_v2_60_019.jpg

Not DCnU. This may sound like me being a d!ck, but they ARE different. D!ckishness would be me insisting on BatGordon lol.

That's like me using Shuri Panther's tech:
http://i715.photobucket.com/albums/ww156/ankur2113/BP_011_Headshot_CPS_016.jpg

But yes, he DID use some kinda weird tech to weaken Namor first:
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/8/80103/4059411-4293885992-40125.jpg

DCU, again. DCnU HAS used magnetised pellets (see the list I posted) but I wasn't sure if he prepped for that metal gang.

We've covered Nth metal.

DCU, again, but I've already said explosives went to Batman. But I would NOT say that those rangs have greater damage output than the ENTIRE JLA. Horse for courses, I just don't think external durability is the same as internal durability (internal is usually much lower) and being able to completely negate external durability is pretty potent.

The daggers can also cut forcefields:
http://i.imgur.com/G5ajgL1.jpg

And disable them:
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/0/7604/1279384-blackpanther42p20.jpg

Ultron scan:
http://i.imgur.com/Nk6JuYg.jpg

:-) at "glorified projectiles!!" Is this pure ignorance or is the lowball virus spreading? By the way, I'm responded because I already know he won't response to any of your counters.

PS: Explosives are the PUSSY way out.

Are you f#cking serious? ? Batarangs are a primitive, terroristic weapon are far as comics go. By the way, were the **** does he hold all of those little glorified pipe bombs?? How in then hell are you pimping them over hard light Daggers that can be both wielded and thrown and cut right through energy fields? Too bad Batman couldn't come up with an advanced tech like that. BP doesn't have to worry about storing them all in a belt that apparently contains a pocket universe. Speaking of explosions, based on your spoiled kid responses to riv and saint, I fully expect your head to explode. Three, two, one...

I like his responses; lets me know i'm doing something right.

Originally posted by riv6672
I like his responses; lets me know i'm doing something right.

You masochistic 😛

Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
Who the **** is "African Panther?"
It's a cheap cologne. 👆

Originally posted by Galan007
It's a cheap cologne. 👆

😆 You so crayzy!

I haven't read any new Bane, but the old one could certainly pull off some wins. If he's even more powerful now maybe he takes the majority.

Originally posted by deathslash
killer croc, scarecrow, Mr freeze, etc.

It should also be noted that batman has beaten him in a 1v1 fight, killer croc has beaten him in their rematch (bane even asked croc to kill him after he'd gotten beaten), and talon has outsmarted him.

I don't see BP having problems with those 3.

2 face even beat Killer Croc without weapons. I've never really been impressed with that character (Except in Arkham Asylum!)

Originally posted by Galan007
It's a cheap cologne. 👆

Sex Panther coliogne lol

^^^You can actually buy that stuff in RL!

Also, pretty sure BP would take a majority over Croc, Scarecrow, and Freeze, with Freeze being the toughest fight.

Some of you are close to a temp ban. Stop the nonsense.

Whelp, guess this one's done. Thanks everyone for so much input in this thread. 👆

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Or, 18 opponents 😛
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/0/7604/1072237-black_panther_v2_60_019.jpg
How is throwing 18 projectiles, the same as being able to generate a foam that harmlessly immobilizes and restrains people? Your example would have been better if I showed Batman throwing dozens of batarangs, which is not what this is about. Black Panther would've harmed those innocent people with the same tactic.

I mean, I know you've got a hammer, so you're going to keep using that hammer to prove your point. But not all situations require a hammer.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Not DCnU. This may sound like me being a d!ck, but they ARE different. [/url]
If there's a character whose capabilities and history have barely changed in the DCnU, it's Batman. We both know this, don't be disingenuous here. 😠

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
That's like me using Shuri Panther's tech:
http://i715.photobucket.com/albums/ww156/ankur2113/BP_011_Headshot_CPS_016.jpg

But yes, he DID use some kinda weird tech to weaken Namor first:
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/8/80103/4059411-4293885992-40125.jpg[/url]

Even if we assume that Dick Grayson, as Batman, had specially made batarangs that Bruce didn't have and, really - are we being disingenuous again, and act like that's the case?
Even then, this is Batarangs vs energy daggers. This is not batarangs vs everything Black Panther has ever shown. Besides, Shuri was specifically prepared for a confrontation with Namor. How could you possibly transfer that to Black Panther's standard equipment, when even Shuri wasn't? C'mon, don't argue for the sake of arguing.

Don't steer the discussion into that direction, just because the daggers don't measure up to the batarangs.

Besides, Bruce used the heat generating batarangs, too:
http://s289.photobucket.com/user/darknight2k/media/Standard%20Advanced%20Prep%20Time/batman20-batarangheat.jpg.html

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
We've covered Nth metal.
Covered it how? Batman can defeat spectral beings with his batarangs. Do you have something similar? Then it will be covered.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
The daggers can also cut forcefields:
http://i.imgur.com/G5ajgL1.jpg

And disable them:
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/0/7604/1279384-blackpanther42p20.jpg

Ultron scan:
http://i.imgur.com/Nk6JuYg.jpg

Batarangs measure up very good against electronics too - magnetic batarangs, to be more specific:

http://imgur.com/FpuEVDP

Disabling force fields? That's nice, when you're encountering people with them. But Batman can actually generate containment fields with his batarangs:

http://s289.photobucket.com/user/darknight2k/media/Standard%20Advanced%20Prep%20Time/batman20-batarangenergy1.jpg.html
http://s289.photobucket.com/user/darknight2k/media/Standard%20Advanced%20Prep%20Time/batman20-batarangenergy2.jpg.html

Again, as in the case with overall - the batarangs have a lot more applications than the energy daggers, and they're better on raw power by a considerable margin, too.

The only situation where the daggers are more useful is in close quarters fight against somebody with electrical-based suit/armor which is a very small part of the opponents they might confront. The rest -- Batman clears them, easily.

Like I said, it's a simple matter..
If you were in the Marvel/DC Universe, and you'd have to fight various types of opponents, would you rather have Batman's gear (or batarangs) or Black Panther's (or energy daggers). The answer is quite obvious.

Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
Are you f#cking serious? ? Batarangs are a primitive, terroristic weapon are far as comics go. By the way, were the **** does he hold all of those little glorified pipe bombs?? How in then hell are you pimping them over hard light Daggers that can be both wielded and thrown and cut right through energy fields? Too bad Batman couldn't come up with an advanced tech like that. BP doesn't have to worry about storing them all in a belt that apparently contains a pocket universe. Speaking of explosions, based on your spoiled kid responses to riv and saint, I fully expect your head to explode. Three, two, one...

And BP carries grenades that blow holes' through concrete and are powerful enough to hurt Namor