Originally posted by Robtard
It's hilarious that they're practically being ignored by authorities, basically denying them the fight they wanted and making them look like the resistance fighter role-players they are.
It's hilarious until you consider the implications of this. In that armed people took over a building and nobody really did anything. Frankly I don't care if they building they are taking over is the White House itself or a damned McDonald's, the very first thing that should of been done is to seal off the place so nobody could get in. I mean whether a person agree's with what they are doing or not...any person should be able to admit what a horrible f*ck up this is when it comes to law enforcement.
That is the truly hilarious thing to me, that these *armed men occupying a building* aren't the worst thing about this entire affair. It is also strange to me they give two shits if the people take over a building, but holy shit if you didn't serve the proper jail sentence because we f*cked up and and were too stupid to notice for 10 years? Well golly it's time for action.
I mean we are 100% certain law enforcement is aware of this situation right? Since it seems in Oregon being blissfully ignorant to shit is a common theme.
One of the stories posted said they burned a patch of land to cover up the poaching they had been doing on government land. So it was a combo of poaching and arson; not sure if the poaching was part of their sentence.
They claimed they set fire to create a firebreak between their land and the government land.
Originally posted by Surtur
It's hilarious until you consider the implications of this. In that armed people took over a building and nobody really did anything. Frankly I don't care if they building they are taking over is the White House itself or a damned McDonald's, the very first thing that should of been done is to seal off the place so nobody could get in. I mean whether a person agree's with what they are doing or not...any person should be able to admit what a horrible f*ck up this is when it comes to law enforcement.That is the truly hilarious thing to me, that these *armed men occupying a building* aren't the worst thing about this entire affair. It is also strange to me they give two shits if the people take over a building, but holy shit if you didn't serve the proper jail sentence because we f*cked up and and were too stupid to notice for 10 years? Well golly it's time for action.
I mean we are 100% certain law enforcement is aware of this situation right? Since it seems in Oregon being blissfully ignorant to shit is a common theme.
Originally posted by Surtur
Oh it is funny in a sense. Though if I lived in Oregon I probably would be more mystified then amused. I mean if they don't care if they take over a building with guns why do they care if they burn some damn plants? Stop selectively enforcing the law.
Originally posted by Omega Vision
It's not that the government doesn't care, it's that these people have repeatedly stated that if the authorities try to remove them they'll use deadly force. And while you criticized me for "bringing race into it," I do stand by my original assertion that because these people are white Christians the authorities are much more hesitant to act. If they were Muslim extremists, Marxist radicals, part of some kind of weird cult or white supremacist organization, we'd at least have a tense armed standoff with armored vehicles and SWAT teams surrounding the area.
Well you did bring race into though, since we can play the "if they were this color this would happen" game all day long, with multiple races and we can definitely make both sides look bad by doing so. Yes if they were Muslim extremists things would be different because those shit heads tend to be extreme and enjoy exploding themselves. These are not crazy religious nutjobs and you can't pretend there isn't a difference between these people and religious nutjobs willing to blow themselves up for their god.
But either way there should absolutely be zero way for anyone to gain access to the building. They do not need to storm the building in order to make sure nobody can gain access. If they HAD done that this would of been over.
So I think this goes beyond what you are saying. You'd think if this was about "oh they are white so meh" they'd at least try to make it seem like they are putting in an effort. At least make sure nobody can get in or out without the cops knowing.
Originally posted by Surtur
Well you did bring race into though, since we can play the "if they were this color this would happen" game all day long, with multiple races. Yes if they were Muslim extremists things would be different because those shit heads tend to be extreme and enjoy exploding themselves. These are not crazy religious nutjobs and you can't pretend there isn't a difference between these people and religious nutjobs willing to blow themselves up for their god.But either way there should absolutely be zero way for anyone to gain access to the building. They do not need to storm the building in order to make sure nobody can gain access. If they HAD done that this would of been over.
So I think this goes beyond what you are saying. You'd think if this was about "oh they are white so meh" they'd at least try to make it seem like they are putting in an effort.
But there is zeal and then ZEAL. My religion teacher in school had zeal, but not the "I will explode myself for these fictional beings" type of zeal some extremists have.
I'll call it right now: I don't think a single one of these people is actually willing to die over this. Oh one guy claimed he'd rather die then go to jail, but the lack of planning tells me these guys aren't as hardcore as they claim.
Originally posted by Surtur
It's hilarious until you consider the implications of this. In that armed people took over a building and nobody really did anything. Frankly I don't care if they building they are taking over is the White House itself or a damned McDonald's, the very first thing that should of been done is to seal off the place so nobody could get in. I mean whether a person agree's with what they are doing or not...any person should be able to admit what a horrible f*ck up this is when it comes to law enforcement.That is the truly hilarious thing to me, that these *armed men occupying a building* aren't the worst thing about this entire affair. It is also strange to me they give two shits if the people take over a building, but holy shit if you didn't serve the proper jail sentence because we f*cked up and and were too stupid to notice for 10 years? Well golly it's time for action.
I mean we are 100% certain law enforcement is aware of this situation right? Since it seems in Oregon being blissfully ignorant to shit is a common theme.
It's a dire situation really.
A lone building in the freezing Tundra of a desolate area.
It's what we call a national emergency here.
So many people are in danger of losing there lives.
Tons of property damage could occur, there are literally tens of thousands of people in the immediate area that could possibly die.
I think the FBI needs to go back.