The best President of the last century?

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Originally posted by Robtard
Carter with a nod to Obama

-One of the more honest/open Presidents
-Tried to clean up Washington
-Handled a shit economy well (70's energy crisis)

Carter? Really?

Admittedly he was from before my time, but from what I've heard was he was a terrible president but a great man.

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What other presidents have Chia pets made of them?

Hm, this is a tough one... because there's a lot of different metrics.

I mean, on the one hand, FDR has WW2 and Social Security and New Deal, all huge successes. On the other, he has internment.

Nixon has his sizable share of accomplishments too, but his obvious minuses as well.

Originally posted by Star428
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He didn't ask who the worst President of all-time was did he? So why u picked Obama's muslim race-baiting divisive joke ass is beyond me.

Obama outperformed quite a few presidents in a whole lot of metrics.

I mean, needless to say, his employment numbers blow Herbert Hoover's out of the water.

He's only 'worst' in the sense you like him the least and he's the current 'main opponent' of your party, you'll be hard pressed to find any objective measure where he performs even near the bottom, and in some he's fairly high up there.

Give it a decade or so, or maybe just the next Dem president, and you'll probably have a completely different opinion.

(Also, I find 'race baiting' to be a particularly silly complain about him- "He's black, and then we we call him on it, we get accused of being racist! That's totally race baiting!"😉.

Originally posted by Lord Lucien
No love for Bush Sr?

He's solid, IMO the best Republican president in my lifetime, but he doesn't have any real groundbreaking policies to put him in the top tier.

Originally posted by ares834
Carter? Really?

Admittedly he was from before my time, but from what I've heard was he was a terrible president but a great man.

He did have issues during his term as president, but some of that stuff ended up, longrun, panning out fairly positive, so his reputation is worse than the reality.

He was kinda what a lot of people thought Obama would be- a one term flash in the pan who got some good stuff done. (Then Obama managed to win and throw off that comparison, but at first pretty much everyone thought he'd have one term due to the recession)

I don't think I'd put him in top tier, but not bottom either.

Originally posted by Star428
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He didn't ask who the worst President of all-time was did he? So why u picked Obama's muslim race-baiting divisive joke ass is beyond me.

Getting serious now instead of nonsense like u just posted, Bardock, it's like TI said. Either JFK or Reagan. I lean towards Reagan, obviously, for the simple fact he was a Republican. Republicans are just inherently superior to democrats. So Reagan gets my vote. 👆


OP didnt specify "agree with Star428 or get meaninglessly hissy fitted at".
It'd be an odd opinion thread if it did. 😛
Anyhow, i say Reagan. He was the President i came of age with; he was a WWII vet, he ended the cold war, he survived getting shot, and was responsible for the longest distance bombing run in history when France wouldnt let US planes fly over French air space to bomb Lybia, and he detoured, refueled in flight, and did exactly what he told Muammar Gaddafi he was going to.
You did NOT mess with Reagan.

Reagan and Franklin D Roosevelt.

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Obama?😂

I know. Hilarious, ain't it? Apparently, some people haven't seen some of the latest polls that show most of Americans are displeased with him. He's a weak ass traitorous President who should've been impeached years ago. Last night on FOX, I saw the highlights of him talking about guns with fake tears in his eyes. Funny how he didn't weep after all those defenseless people were killed in Paris. Funny how he didn't weep at all the people who been beheaded by ISIS including several Americans. No, he instead goes to play golf or he'd rather talk about the weather. LOL. Make no mistake, he will go down in history as THE worst American President of all-time. 👆

^^^in your opinion. 🙂

Originally posted by Star428
I know. Hilarious, ain't it? Apparently, some people haven't seen some of the latest polls that show most of Americans are displeased with him.

He's at 45; only 4pts behind Reagan when Reagan was in his 4th January after re-election. The previous president was at 33, so Obama seems to be doing alright for himself.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/116479/barack-obama-presidential-job-approval.aspx

Trump

But I'm from the future.

Originally posted by Henry_Pym
Trump

But I'm from the future.

My man👆👆

Originally posted by ares834
Carter? Really?

Admittedly he was from before my time, but from what I've heard was he was a terrible president but a great man.

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Rob as no answer for his liberal fairy tails.

Originally posted by ares834
Carter? Really?

Admittedly he was from before my time, but from what I've heard was he was a terrible president but a great man.


Terrible is a harsh, TBH. The Iran Hostage Crisis shattered his presidential legacy though, yeah. His work outside of office has been fantastic though.

It didn't help that him and Congress / the media got along rather horribly. They portrayed him terribly and shot down most of his "promises" like the tax reform.

Nevertheless, he managed to establish the Department of Energy and Education, and orchestrated a praised peace deal between the Egyptians and Israelis.

I've always through the department of education was trash and they teach indoctrination.

Why does the government which is corrupt need to be involved in the teaching of our kids.

Local taxes at the city level pay for schools.

The government has no business in the education business.

Why are states and individual cities more qualified to dictate what kids should learn then the feds, in your opinion?

Because the people pay for them.

No love for Bill Clinton ?

^^^i liked Clinton.

Yea, Bill had a solid run. Better economy than Reagan- or most others. No big disasters. All scandals more of the taudy variety than the important variety.

Star428

I know. Hilarious, ain't it? Apparently, some people haven't seen some of the latest polls that show most of Americans are displeased with him.

'The latest polls'? Obama's been in the mid-40s for a couple years now, he has boring, evenly split polling that's never remotely newsworthy 🙂

The majority of presidents have lower lows than him. And higher highs. If one went by popularity, Barack Obama is a clear middle of the pack president.

Just checking the latest, Rasmussen has him at 48, Gallup at 46 (kinda surprised that Rasmussen has him higher, as they tend to er more conservative. That's polling for you, I guess).

Obama rarely moves far from a coin flip, and even when he does he just moves back in a few months.

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Because the people pay for them.

People pay for the Fed too, and the Fed has more ability to keep things consistent and prevent an area from deciding some failed out-of-date education model is the way to go.

I mean, some people actually do honestly push for root memorization (I.e. instead of learning how to multiple in general, you just learn charts of the answers to various multiplication questions). Get one of those in charge of a city school district in the South or something, and then you have a few years of kids being taught crap math for no real reason.

The Federal Government is just as much yours as the state or local.

These are just a few of the reasons that Obama is THE WORST PRESIDENT EVER:

http://thefederalist.com/2015/11/19/barack-obama-worst-president-ever/

The article left out a bunch of others, of course. Many that myself and others have posted many times before.

Hahaha carter and obama. Is this for real