Originally posted by kevdude
The best is Reagan and Dwight. The worst is FDR, we are still suffering from his bs. Him and his buddy Stalin took over central and Eastern Europe for 40+ years. Stealing half of Poland, and then stole half of eastern Germany. Smh. Obama is another bad one that's a socialist.
You know this happened after FDR's death?
Originally posted by Bardock42
You know this happened after FDR's death?
What happened? Him letting Stalin into eastern Europe? No that was Roosevelt's choice. Churchill wanted to keep going as far east as possible. He wanted to go up through Greece and the Balkans free eastern Europe. Believing Stalin was a trustworthy guy he let him take the east. FDR kept running again and again as president, which was unheard of before he did it. Washington left at 2 terms, in order for America not to be like a monarchy, where one person stays the head of state for way to long. FDR wanted to micro-manage the economy that only worsened the depression we was in.
Originally posted by kevdude
Washington left at 2 terms, in order for America not to be like a monarchy, where one person stays the head of state for way to long. FDR wanted to micro-manage the economy that only worsened the depression we was in.
This is what I always found odd though. The 2 term thing. If the people feel the current leader is doing a good job, why get rid of him? I could see if someone was trying to stay in office even though people wanted that person out, but if a majority of people want that person to lead, then why not? It doesn't mean the person gets automatically re-elected.
Just because the majority feel he is doing a good job doesn't mean he actually is. The 2 term thing that Washington was for, made it so we don't have someone in there that is like a dictatorship or monarchy. Roosevelt was doing a bunch of things that was illegal for the government to do, passing all his bills that a Republic is not suppose to have! The 2 term limit is to get some new blood in the presidency.
Someone said that FDR's success's was WW 2, SS, and the New Deal.... WW 2 was a disaster, if he stood along with the British and French and stood up to Hitler, it might not have ever happened. China doesn't have SS, but they are thinking about having it over there, when there's no reason, the Chinese have savings! That's the sign of a healthy economy.
Dwight ended the Korean War, he then slowed down and tried to contain the New Deal idea's that was harming the economy! Roosevelt appointed former KKK member Hugo Black as a supreme court justice. Jesse Owens also claims Roosevelt snubbed him, while even Adolf Hitler sent him a commemorative photograph. FDR also signed Executive Order 9066, the act that determined a group of Americans (from Japan) should be imprisoned because of their race.
Originally posted by Bardock42
For the pro list:Significantly extending health care coverage for Americans
Aiding a miraculous economic recovery after a major world wide banking crisisPretty good really.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qgce06Yw2ro&feature=player_embedded
Remember the guy that called him a liar? Well Obama was lying.
You mean it was good coverage for Illegal Immigrants
Originally posted by kevdude
What happened? Him letting Stalin into eastern Europe? No that was Roosevelt's choice. Churchill wanted to keep going as far east as possible. He wanted to go up through Greece and the Balkans free eastern Europe. Believing Stalin was a trustworthy guy he let him take the east. FDR kept running again and again as president, which was unheard of before he did it. Washington left at 2 terms, in order for America not to be like a monarchy, where one person stays the head of state for way to long. FDR wanted to micro-manage the economy that only worsened the depression we was in.
Originally posted by Omega Vision
You realize that the Western Allies simply couldn't have stopped the Soviets short of using nuclear weapons if push came to shove, right?
Yes, I know that. If the Western Allies pushed they could have forced the Soviets to their demands. They would have been digging their own graves messing with the west who has nuclear weapons. Roosevelt's appeasement though and our leaders caring about life is what stopped it from escalating. Without the western aid the Soviets received, Germany would have over run them.