Sith vs. Elves

Again, just witness the Mace feat I referenced. He blocks multiple blaster fire and point blank range. Jumps at least 5 stories down and blocks more fire while falling down. That would take incredible speed to execute.

Again with Sids and the blitzing of the masters. He's shown moving too fast for them to react. Sure we don't see blurry lines, but we can barely make things out in that scene and we see him kill them. Clearly intended to show his speed. There is no other way to kill 3 of the best the Jedi had to offer that fast, who themselves have enhanced speed-reflexes-and precog

I'd also cite the Anakin falling incredibly far and still having the strength to catch and hold onto a moving speeder. I'd say any elf who tried that would have their arms tore off.

I believe the Sith takes this. The difference is that while the blades the elves have are immune to the lightsabers, the lightsaber will still be far more dangerous should it slip past the defences of either of the elves (which is imo will). If Nuadu manages to get a good smack in with his staff, it'll hurt but no "major" harm done. If Maul for instance manages to get a smack in with his lightsaber it's game over. It's a pretty good fight though, I see Legolas as the weak link for some reason, he as I recall tended to struggle against characters with some level of skill, but it's been some time since I've seen the hobbit.

Unfortunately, neither Sidius, Mace or Anakin are in this fight. And I'm pretty sure we're all in agreement that Sidius and Mace are some of the top fighters in the Jedi world.

so is Dooku

Originally posted by relentless1
so is Dooku

True, but I'm not giving Dooku feats that only Sidius or Windu have performed.

Originally posted by FrothByte
Unfortunately, neither Sidius, Mace or Anakin are in this fight. And I'm pretty sure we're all in agreement that Sidius and Mace are some of the top fighters in the Jedi world.

True, but you asked this question:

Originally posted by FrothByte
I don't recall any Jedi or Sith ever amping their speed. They have precog which allows them to see things happen a second or two before they do... but all that gives them is very fast reflexes which the elves should be able to match. Jango Fett was able to keep up with Obiwan after all.

What I'm saying is, I don't recall any Jedi or Sith ever adjusting their precog, enhancing it or whatever, or specifically enhancing their speed.

Thus, I was answering your question

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
True, but you asked this question:

Thus, I was answering your question

Not really. You showed me Sidius and Mace being faster than their opponents. I wouldn't call that amping... simply that they're faster.

Okay so we'll ignore the books which add more detail than we can see in the movie.... gotcha

Even then Froth, you still have the Mace feat of blocking point blank blaster fire, even while falling... That would take incredible speed to pull off.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Okay so we'll ignore the books which add more detail than we can see in the movie.... gotcha

Even then Froth, you still have the Mace feat of blocking point blank blaster fire, even while falling... That would take incredible speed to pull off.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Okay so we'll ignore the books which add more detail than we can see in the movie.... gotcha

Even then Froth, you still have the Mace feat of blocking point blank blaster fire, even while falling... That would take incredible speed to pull off.

Yes, I agree. I never said Jedis were slow, I just don't think they can amp their speed to anything more than what they already have.

My belief is that the elve's heightened reflexes are enough to match the sith. If you don't agree that's perfectly fine. I just don't think the sith can increase their speed at will.

Nuada is the best swords man here. Ppl keep mentioning blocking blaster fire. but that is allowed throw the force and OP removed that. Most speed feats can be argued that it was the force and not their own reflex which makes jedi fights complicated. IF this is a pure skill match up, Nuada, Dooku, Legolas=Maul in that order i think.

The elves id argue are stronger than the sith without the force and quicker too. Legolas has also been seen doing silly things like running on falling rocks so id say elves win due to natural abilities shown without any amps

Originally posted by wallman77
IF this is a pure skill match up, Nuada, Dooku, Legolas=Maul in that order i think.

no way, watch TCW and catch Dooku take on 4 night sisters while drugged, he was able to stalemate then with sword fighting abilities alone, or when he fights Anakin and Obi Wan and totally makes them look like fools when they attack him at the same time. He's way more skilled than naruda. Thats the thing that makes his character stand out in fact; he's head and shoulders above every other Jedi/Sith in regards to swordsmanship with the exception of Sidious, Yoda and Mace...the latter of which is Dookus equal at best.

Originally posted by relentless1
no way, watch TCW and catch Dooku take on 4 night sisters while drugged, he was able to stalemate then with sword fighting abilities alone, or when he fights Anakin and Obi Wan and totally makes them look like fools when they attack him at the same time. He's way more skilled than naruda. Thats the thing that makes his character stand out in fact; he's head and shoulders above every other Jedi/Sith in regards to swordsmanship with the exception of Sidious, Yoda and Mace...the latter of which is Dookus equal at best.

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