Originally posted by Sin I AM
This..although i think collector stands a good chance
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You know, I agree with this; I dont think some recognize how powerful Collector truly is...
Most recently Collector took it to a guy who took it to Thanos...
The Avengers were not powerful enough to defeat him; it took the Unimind to put him down...
IMHO, if Supes gets past WM Thor (and thats a big if IMHO), I dont think Supes would have enough left in the tank to defeat Collector...
Originally posted by TheLordofMurderSuperman can beat Wm Thor in several minutes or less without getting touched. We Thor can be KOed by Supes in less than 20 shattering blows. Remember Wm Thor is 10x stronger, not 10x durable. Also he fights very dumb.
👆You know, I agree with this; I dont think some recognize how powerful Collector truly is...
Most recently Collector took it to a guy who took it to Thanos...
The Avengers were not powerful enough to defeat him; it took the Unimind to put him down...
IMHO, if Supes gets past WM Thor (and thats a big if IMHO), I dont think Supes would have enough left in the tank to defeat Collector...
Originally posted by h1a8
Superman can beat Wm Thor in several minutes or less without getting touched. We Thor can be KOed by Supes in less than 20 shattering blows. Remember Wm Thor is 10x stronger, not 10x durable. Also he fights very dumb.
I dont believe that...
Thor has dealt with super speedsters before and he's never not been able to hit them...
As for Thors damage soak, I dont think you can just arbitrarily assign numbers to this...
Originally posted by h1a8
lowballing is using a character's lowest showings as a representative of their forum level.I never mentioned Thor's lowest showings.
I'm comparing the two by feats and coming to a conclusion based off the magnitude of one's feats over the other's.
Can Thor one shot Superman?
Shut up, Carver. Smfh.
Superman clears up to depowered Tyrant. Even without any rest, as long as he's got the sun bathing him, he doesn't need it anyway.
Of course though, depending on the version, Superman could clear the gauntlet no prob, or lose to #1. Someone like... Idk, PC Superman though could make it up to depowered Tyrant, and fight him for a while before losing.
Originally posted by TheLordofMurderThat's because when Thor hits them they are not using speed. Tbh, most speedsters have to be written without using speed for the sake of the plot.
I dont believe that...Thor has dealt with super speedsters before and he's never not been able to hit them...
As for Thors damage soak, I dont think you can just arbitrarily assign numbers to this...
I can. When I assign a number it's usually a courtesy. In reality it would take about 2-3 good strikes. Thor has a glass jaw when it comes to heavy hitters rocking his ass.
Originally posted by h1a8
That's because when Thor hits them they are not using speed. Tbh, most speedsters have to be written without using speed for the sake of the plot.I can. When I assign a number it's usually a courtesy. In reality it would take about 2-3 good strikes. Thor has a glass jaw when it comes to heavy hitters rocking his ass.
Eh, I'm a little apt to disagree with the glass jaw comment. He's taken hits from Hulk.
The same hits that Superman tanked until Hulk passed out from exhaustion, but still.
Originally posted by h1a8
That's because when Thor hits them they are not using speed. Tbh, most speedsters have to be written without using speed for the sake of the plot.I can. When I assign a number it's usually a courtesy. In reality it would take about 2-3 good strikes. Thor has a glass jaw when it comes to heavy hitters rocking his ass.
Great, so post your formula that yeilds the numbers you come up with...
Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Great, so post your formula that yeilds the numbers you come up with...
I... don't know what he's talking about, but Superman definitely outclasses Thor in strength, speed, durability, and in a lot of cases, striking power.
Really all he'd have to do is fly away, and come back at MFTL while holding his fist out, to knock Thor's head into the sun.
Originally posted by SSJGGogeta
I... don't know what he's talking about, but Superman definitely outclasses Thor in strength, speed, durability, and in a lot of cases, striking power.Really all he'd have to do is fly away, and come back at MFTL while holding his fist out, to knock Thor's head into the sun.
You know you can absolutely make a concrete argument that Superman is physically superior to Thor; I have no problem with that at all...
I have a problem with all the numbers h1 throws around; they are just made up and lack any science to back them up...
If someone wants to give their opinion on something, then fine, but dont throw numbers around and act like the numbers are factual...
Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
You know you can absolutely make a concrete argument that Superman is physically superior to Thor; I have no problem with that at all...I have a problem with all the numbers h1 throws around; they are just made up and lack any science to back them up...
If someone wants to give their opinion on something, then fine, but dont throw numbers around and act like the numbers are factual...
Well to be fair, I haven't seen him throw any calcs around. He said Supe's would win with 2-3 punches, which is honestly being extremely generous. Most versions of Superman would one-shot Thor, if not accidentally kill him.
Godblast's would probably do some damage, which is a good argument because of Supe's weakness to magic. But if he can survive as many Zeus bolts from CM as he has over the years, he can tank Thor's handily.
Originally posted by SSJGGogetaI was referring to beings like Gladiator and Thanos mostly. Thor usually gets folded when Hulk strikes Thor in the face. Not all the time. Not KOed from the 1st hit but seriously rocked. Imo, I believe Hulk usually holds back when he fights Thor. But I seen several times where Hulk put a hurting on Thor. But you are right.
Eh, I'm a little apt to disagree with the glass jaw comment. He's taken hits from Hulk.The same hits that Superman tanked until Hulk passed out from exhaustion, but still.