Originally posted by abhilegend
You need to shut up.
No, he's not. His sole feat is beating a weakened Surfer.That's not enough to be a high herald, let alone being a Trans.
If you think Runners sole feat is beating Surfer, then you need to read more comics...
Inaddition, Champion claimed that Surfer was weakened (and he only said that because Runner was bragging to the other Elders); Surfer never claimed or showed weakness before, during, or after his fight with Runner...
According to Surfer, he summoned up the Power Cosmic, but the Runner was simply stronger than him...
Also, keep in mind, that the Runner nearly killed Surfer while toying with him (and he would have died if Mantis had not healed him); Surfers attacks had no real effect on Runner either...
So combined with his other feats (which, by your own admission, you are ignorant of), he's absolutely Trans...
Originally posted by abhilegend
Haha, what? Are we talking about the same Thor who got his shit pushed in by a weakened BRB?
Yeah that Thor...
But tell me, how did Bill get weakened in the 1st place? By getting crushed by WM Thor and knocked into orbit...
Then the 2nd time around, Thor attacked recklessly and got punished for it by Bill...
Then Thor recovers, KO's Bill...beats Surfer solo...proceeds to beat Surfer and Adam Warlock...then follows all of that up by putting a hurting on the Infinity Watch.
WM Thor without the Power Gem was beastly in that arc sans that one hiccup against Bill...
Originally posted by Rao Kal El
Byrne Superman during the panic in the sky arc faced a Brainiac contolled Mon El, Guy Gardner, Starman, Fire, Ice and Booster Gold. AT THE SAME TIMEWhen Braniac scanned Superman's mind, Braniac realized Superman was holding back 💃
Yeah, not bad...
Booster Gold, Fire, and Ice are hardly powerhouses, but not bad at anyrate...
Still doesnt invalidate how beastly Thor was against multiple mid to high heralds...
Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Yeah, not bad...Booster Gold, Fire, and Ice are hardly powerhouses, but not bad at anyrate...
Still doesnt invalidate how beastly Thor was against multiple mid to high heralds...
Yeah I don't see those 3 as dangerous, but Mon El, Guy and Starman will make the cut and those are 3 heralds with 2 of them probably entering on the HH tier and SM face them while holding back and We are talking about Byrne Superman a weaker version than the late post crisis years or beginning of DCNU52
IIRC Thor didn't face his 2 hh while holding back on BT on the contrary, he was getting extra strong
Originally posted by Rao Kal El
Yeah I don't see those 3 as dangerous, but Mon El, Guy and Starman will make the cut and those are 3 heralds with 2 of them probably entering on the HH tier and SM face them while holding back.IIRC Thor didn't face his 2 hh while holding back on BT on the contrary, he was getting extra strong
True...
Superman is legit; he's very powerful...
Thats why I think him running this gauntlet is an interesting challenge for him...
Does he clear? Thats ridiculous and everyone thats posted here knows that (even those of you in the House of El that voted that he clears)...
Does he put up a good showing? Thats a very real possiblity and thats why we are here to debate...
Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
True...Superman is legit; he's very powerful...
Thats why I think him running this gauntlet is an interesting challenge for him...
Does he clear? Thats ridiculous and everyone thats posted here knows that (even those of you in the House of El that voted that he clears)...
Does he put up a good showing? Thats a very real possiblity and thats why we are here to debate...
Imo No.
Even if I try to push it, I don't think he will beat DP Tyrant.
I think He gets pass 3 in bad shape and won't pass 4.
4 will be a challenge because of the speed and Thanos, well is Thanos on top of that he is not resting, so I don't see how he will clear it. He will put a good fight but the stips won't help and is the gauntlet team fight to lose.
Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
If you think Runners sole feat is beating Surfer, then you need to read more comics...Inaddition, [b]Champion
claimed that Surfer was weakened (and he only said that because Runner was bragging to the other Elders); Surfer never claimed or showed weakness before, during, or after his fight with Runner...According to Surfer, he summoned up the Power Cosmic, but the Runner was simply stronger than him...
Also, keep in mind, that the Runner nearly killed Surfer while toying with him (and he would have died if Mantis had not healed him); Surfers attacks had no real effect on Runner either...
So combined with his other feats (which, by your own admission, you are ignorant of), he's absolutely Trans... [/B]
So nothing to suggest he wasn't weakened.
In fact surfer nearly died by falling to a planet. That's how weakened he was.
Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Yeah that Thor...But tell me, how did Bill get weakened in the 1st place? By getting crushed by WM Thor and knocked into orbit...
Then the 2nd time around, Thor attacked recklessly and got punished for it by Bill...
Then Thor recovers, KO's Bill...beats Surfer solo...proceeds to beat Surfer and Adam Warlock...then follows all of that up by putting a hurting on the Infinity Watch.
WM Thor without the Power Gem was beastly in that arc sans that one hiccup against Bill...
Perhaps I shouldn't mention Spider-Man beating the same Thor too.
All it shows that the Watch and Surfer fought like morons. Thor trying to slug out with Superman is not a good idea for Thor.
Originally posted by carver9
Powergirl fought against a mind controlled Superman and Black Adam and was winning.
The mindcontrolled heroes were explicitly less effective due to the mindcontrol.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Champion claimed it was done after the fight with Korvac where surfer was killed.So nothing to suggest he wasn't weakened.
In fact surfer nearly died by falling to a planet. That's how weakened he was.
Correction, there is no evidence that Surfer was weakened; you have Champion making that claim after being subdued (rather easily; hardly any effort) by Surfer while Runner went on to crush Surfer...
Surfer certainly makes no claim or excuse of being weakened; he owns it as a loss to someone who was simply more powerful than he was: