Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
You people are CRAZY. Surfer is far more durable. Do you understand the forces he not only withstands, but wades through in the rigors of space? He ****ing lives there, eat, breaths, sleeps and shits.....oh wait, he's so ****ing durable he doesn't need to do any of that stuff! Surfer, easily.
They must be more durable than Superman too, right?
Originally posted by deathslash
batman was amped on venom and it was nighttime (so Clark wasn't at the peak of his power). I know it still doesn't explain how he got a bloody lip from a single punch, but I just thought that you should know the context behind it.Either way, no selling a punch from she hulk several decades ago vs getting a bloody lip from an amped batman at night isn't how we should go about determining how durable these two are. We should take their highest and lowest end showings to see who has a better track record. Personally, I think that surfer's energy resistance is above superman's and superman's physical resistance is above surfer's.
Disagree with physical resistance. What are you basing this off of?
Okay well "survives the rigors of space" can mean a lot of things. The various types of radiations and stuff you are exposed to in space both Superman and Surfer can easily withstand. They both have flown for long periods in space before.
Surfer is also tough enough to fight inside a black hole though, and in the cores of stars and all that. Both are tough, but Surfer's body seems much harder to damage overall.
Originally posted by Surtur
Okay well "survives the rigors of space" can mean a lot of things. The various types of radiations and stuff you are exposed to in space both Superman and Surfer can easily withstand. They both have flown for long periods in space before.Surfer is also tough enough to fight inside a black hole though, and in the cores of stars and all that. Both are tough, but Surfer's body seems much harder to damage overall.
Surfer has a poor record against black holes.
Originally posted by carver9doomsday, zod, darkseid, etc. I've seen Clark wade through physical damage based attack far more often than I've seen surfer do it. Granted, I have not read a very large amount of surfer related material and my opinion can change if you can make a solid enough argument.
Disagree with physical resistance. What are you basing this off of?
Originally posted by deathslash
doomsday, zod, darkseid, etc. I've seen Clark wade through physical damage based attack far more often than I've seen surfer do it. Granted, I have not read a very large amount of surfer related material and my opinion can change if you can make a solid enough argument.
Doomsday physically damaged him though.
Zod broke his arm.
Which fight with Darkseid?
Originally posted by carver9
Did you see any of those fights? Doomsday damaged him, Zod broke his arm and I'm trying to figure out which Darkseid fight he is talking about.
I've seen the fights.
I know we disagree on this point, but to me Superman's durability doesnt mean he wont get hurt. It means he'll get hurt where others would get ripped apart.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85you're playing a dangerous game my friend. If you keep this up, I'm going to have to save your quotes for the next time that someone says panther didn't really beat him.
Panther arm barring Surfer.Imagine if a Low Meta tier guy did that to Surfer.
If ANYBODY argues it is a low showing for Surfer - on what are THEY basing it on? What other showings of Surfer's arms/ligaments etc do they have?