Huh. Mein Kampf republished.

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Huh. Mein Kampf republished.

Mein Kampf hits stores in tense Germany

It's one of the most talked about publications of the year. It's not a new book. And it's not even a well-written book. But Mein Kampf, by Adolf Hitler, which hits German bookshops for the first time in 70 years on Friday, is certainly attracting attention.

Hitler's anti-Semitic tirade is seen as the forerunner to the Holocaust. But that is also why historians want it republished.

Hitler wrote it mostly while in prison in the mid-1920s, and academics say it helps explain the Nazis' crazed ideology when they came to power less than a decade later.

As such, they say, it's a crucial academic text. Not pleasant reading, but essential to understanding the Holocaust and Hitler's brutal rule.

Surprisingly, some Jewish groups have also supported this edition.

This is an annotated, critical version, with thousands of academic notes.

And without this republication, the only hard copies available in Germany would be the pre-1945 Nazi editions, still found in second-hand bookshops or online. Those are certainly not critical.

The idea is that republishing Mein Kampf will help undermine it.

Until now, the copyright has been in the hands of the Bavarian government. But because 70 years have now passed since the the death of the author - in this case, Adolf Hitler - that copyright has expired.
Ban counter-productive

Germany could ban it. After all, the swastika and other Nazi symbols are outlawed here, under incitement-to-violence laws.

Germans see that not as an infringement of free speech, but as a way of guaranteeing it, by not allowing fascist groups to intimidate minorities.

But the problem with banning Mein Kampf is that this could simply increase its power.

It would fuel the neo-Nazi propaganda that claims that modern Germany stamps out dissent from far-right groups.

There is also a feeling that outlawing the book would simply add to its mystique. Much better to destroy the myth, is the hope.

Actually reading it, rather than regarding the book as dangerous and seductive, takes away any power from a text that is clearly nothing more than an incoherent and badly written rant.

So, using incitement laws, Germany's authorities have decided to restrict publication: an annotated, academic edition will be allowed - but not other uncritical editions.

But Germans are still distinctly uncomfortable with the idea that they might suddenly start seeing the Fuehrer's face adorning shop windows, not to mention the moral issue of making a profit out of an anti-Semitic text written by Hitler.

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I think this is a good thing.
It'll take away from the glamour/mystique of the book. People are always more interested in the forbidden fruit.
Plus, there's the "those who forget history are doomed to repeat it" thing. If something like this (a person like Hitler/that era in world history) comes around again, its likely going to be in large part due to trying too hard to erase the last time from our consciousness.
There are certain groups of people who will never forget that time, but really, no one should.
Opinions on the subject welcome, thanks.

I agree with you, I think banning it completely is a mistake, having an annotated, academic edition seems like a good compromise.

I would ask if you think people need to read Mein Kampf so they don't forget history and what Hitler believed and what he did? It's also a very strange time to release this book. I am sure the release date was planned out well in advance, but still. I'm not saying it should be banned, but it is weird.

Banning it is not the best option.

People need to know what kind of racists, socialist psychopath Hitler was and how to oppose those like him.

I agree with Surtur, tho. Kinda weird when it comes to timing of the publication.

Originally posted by Bardock42
I agree with you, I think banning it completely is a mistake, having an annotated, academic edition seems like a good compromise.

I think it made sense in the climate of post-war Germany, but now that naziism is so thoroughly quashed there, yea, an academic edition makes sense.

I don't like outright banning anything, even fascist parties.

Am i missing something on the timing? Doesnt seem strange?

Originally posted by Surtur
I would ask if you think people need to read Mein Kampf so they don't forget history and what Hitler believed and what he did? It's also a very strange time to release this book. I am sure the release date was planned out well in advance, but still. I'm not saying it should be banned, but it is weird.

We have a copy of Mein Kampf that belonged to my Belgian grandfather, who lost his family to a German rocket attack. It was given to him by a friend with a dedication saying that it was a reminder why they could never forget or forgive what the Germans had done in the name of Hitler's vision. I do think that we should study the book for what it is, the ravings of a lunatic that were nonetheless very compelling to the German people at a certain point in their history.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
We have a copy of Mein Kampf that belonged to my Belgian grandfather, who lost his family to a German rocket attack. It was given to him by a friend with a dedication saying that it was a reminder why they could never forget or forgive what the Germans had done in the name of Hitler's vision. I do think that we should study the book for what it is, the ravings of a lunatic that were nonetheless very compelling to the German people at a certain point in their history.

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Originally posted by Omega Vision
We have a copy of Mein Kampf that belonged to my Belgian grandfather, who lost his family to a German rocket attack. It was given to him by a friend with a dedication saying that it was a reminder why they could never forget or forgive what the Germans had done in the name of Hitler's vision. I do think that we should study the book for what it is, the ravings of a lunatic that were nonetheless very compelling to the German people at a certain point in their history.
If only mankind would do the same with all holy scriptures

I'm gonna protest cuz the book hurts my feelings.

^^^You're probably not the only one going with that reaction.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
We have a copy of Mein Kampf that belonged to my Belgian grandfather, who lost his family to a German rocket attack. It was given to him by a friend with a dedication saying that it was a reminder why they could never forget or forgive what the Germans had done in the name of Hitler's vision. I do think that we should study the book for what it is, the ravings of a lunatic that were nonetheless very compelling to the German people at a certain point in their history.

I get what you mean, but I am just saying that Hitler being a raving lunatic has been well known for decades now. But on the other hand this puts him on the table for discussion again. I get that it is important, but I feel this is shining a spotlight on it at a very strange time.

Originally posted by riv6672
Am i missing something on the timing? Doesnt seem strange?

You don't think with everything going on in Europe this is a weird time to release Mein Kampf? People could easily just replace "jew" with "refugee muslims" with this book. You honestly do not think that is possible? Remember what Hitler thought about the jews. Now think about what is going on with people forming groups to protest the incoming immigrants, etc. It's getting violent out there.

Well, now that you point it out, there are similarities, but i wasnt thinking of that.
The book is being published in as responsible a manner as possible, not being glorified.
Maybe people will look at it and realize some mistakes may be about to be repeated...?

Or maybe some will use it as a guidebook?

People already do.
-shrug-

I realize we could do this all evening, but i'm not trying to belabor my point. I asked for opinions (then about the timing) and you gave me what i asked for, in a really well thought out manner, so thanks for that. 👆

True people do but I think this shines a spotlight on it in a country that doesn't need it right now.

The main problem I see here, is people's minds are feeble. Who's to say some German readers become enamored after reading Hitler's ideologies? What if a group(s) start attacking innocent Muslim immigrants? We saw the ineffectiveness of the German police regarding the Cologne rapes. How are they going to handle the possibility of a greater threat? Yeah, I think the timing couldn't be worse.

Interesting but, its like you're saying no one's had access to to the book until now.

That's not really what I meant. I mean republishing this book will bring it forth in the mainstream public. Just the mention of this book would give rise to some interest, that may influence what white supremacists think, and produce more potential white supremacists.