Old Master Maul vs Count Dooku Speculation

Started by DarthAnt664 pages

lmfao ^

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
lmfao ^

Still don't know what you're laughing at.

Because it has yet to be proved, anything that has been said.

I think Maul will have regressed, personally. He looks old, humbled and weak to me.

Originally posted by Zenwolf
You're really gonna take that at face value? Rather than see what happens?

Well it's not a good sign is it? I mean whatever scripts he's reading he's way ahead of us on the know how of how good this new Maul is.

Originally posted by Nephthys
I think Maul will have regressed, personally. He looks old, humbled and weak to me.
So did Yoda. srug

I think Ant's initial impression was right, that he'll be the dark side equivalent of Old Ben.

I'm cool with them keeping Maul and Kenobi as equals and opposites.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
If Maul's literally sitting inside a Sith Temple on persumbly Malachor for over a dozen years, he better have surpassed Dooku.

Inb4 proof that Revan's malachor knowledge is meaningless before Dooku's might. 💃

Originally posted by Nephthys
I think Maul will have regressed, personally. He looks old, humbled and weak to me.
Originally posted by Galan007
So did Yoda. srug

For all we know, Yoda did regress. Was RotS his prime?

Also, Maul is no Yoda.

Originally posted by Nephthys
For all we know, Yoda did regress. Was RotS his prime?

Also, Maul is no Yoda.

You're missing the point. I'm not saying that Maul didn't regress(though it does seem unlikely.) I'm just saying that his seemingly poor physical appearance is not indicative of a decrease in power. That simply isn't how things work in the SW-verse.

Regardless, it's reasonable to think that Maul isn't in his physical prime anymore; it's been what, 16+ years since SoD?

^ Age isn't the end-all/be-all either.

Dooku, for example, was in his 80s when he died.

Yeah and Palpatine's still 30+ years older than Maul.

But with Old Maul they might go the Old Ben route of older is weaker.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Yeah and Palpatine's still 30+ years older than Maul.

But with Old Maul they might go the Old Ben route of older is weaker.

They could definitely go that route... And I'm not excluding that as a possibility.

Just pointing out that things like physical appearance and age do not automatically mean anything in regard to power. In the SW-verse someone can look like absolute shit and be old as hell, yet still wield more power/skill than ever.

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And I'm pretty sure that Maul would only be in his early 50s by the Rebels-era. That's still relatively young for a Jedi/Sith. /shrug

I said physical prime not his ability as a whole. In a pure lightsaber battle, an 80 year old Dooku isn't going to win to his younger self (assuming the former hasn't increased in swordsman skill). Of course Dooku was able to compensate by staying in great shape and augmenting with the force.

Sidious is extremely frail and looks like sh** but kept an edge because he was able to speed blitz most and augment his strength (accredited to him for being the most powerful Sith).

I know but in Mauls case it's just FPJ's statements giving me doubts he'll have another Power upgrade.

He seems to think Ahsoka could take Maul, and that Maul would just be easy pickings for Vader.

Of course it should be noted FPJ's also of the opinion that Ahsoka would take Kenobi in a fight.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Of course it should be noted FPJ's also of the opinion that Ahsoka would take Kenobi in a fight.

I don't think Maul decreasing in physicality really makes sense.

1. Guy is, and always has been, in ridiculous physical shape even disregarding the Force. He's not likely to let that stagnate, it's quite literally programmed into him to maintain physical fitness.

2. He's immensely strong in the Force; more so than Kenobi. To the point he can go into exile in a literal shithole for 12 years, after being cut in half, letting insanity take hold, and can return to optimal levels within days/weeks of returning just due to his Force power.

3. The difference between Old Ben and Old Master is one did pretty much nothing with himself, and is weaker in the Force anyway, while the other is still active in the galaxy, seeking power in Sith temples and is of the type of Force strength/potential to suggest that 50 isn't going to be the age cap where his physicals start decreasing.

Maul decreasing in any areas just doesn't make sense to me given the circumstances. If I was to decide he'd get another bump up in raw power and would have learned some new dark side techniques; maybe lightning. Everything else would stay the same more or less, though he might be a bit more driven and focused.

While I don't think it's remotely likely, I would love to see a brutal Vader vs Maul fight.

If Maul was in peak condition, I see no reason why FPJ would say that Maul would lose to Ahsoka then, tbh.

Originally posted by ILS
I don't think Maul decreasing in physicality really makes sense.

1. Guy is, and always has been, in ridiculous physical shape even disregarding the Force. He's not likely to let that stagnate, it's quite literally programmed into him to maintain physical fitness.

2. He's immensely strong in the Force; more so than Kenobi. To the point he can go into exile in a literal shithole for 12 years, after being cut in half, letting insanity take hold, and can return to optimal levels within days/weeks of returning just due to his Force power.

3. The difference between Old Ben and Old Master is one did pretty much nothing with himself, and is weaker in the Force anyway, while the other is still active in the galaxy, seeking power in Sith temples and is of the type of Force strength/potential to suggest that 50 isn't going to be the age cap where his physicals start decreasing.

Maul decreasing in any areas just doesn't make sense to me given the circumstances. If I was to decide he'd get another bump up in raw power and would have learned some new dark side techniques; maybe lightning. Everything else would stay the same more or less, though he might be a bit more driven and focused.


Not to mention there's half of his body that gets to escape the organic aging process.