The Punisher (Netflix)

Started by TheVaultDweller12 pages

It will probably get cancelled on the Monday after the week of release.

Originally posted by Patient_Leech
Fu#k! The new Trailer is pretty damn good.

Maybe it helps that I'm a big Alice in Chains fan..

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That actually looks great. Looks like lots of blood and bullets flying around.

The only thing that is weird is how good Billy looks for a guy who had his face grated against shattered glass. But I guess he could have gotten reconstructive surgery to fix at least some of the damage Frank did to him.

I noticed that, too.
That is one handsome Jigsaw!

Flashback?

Doubt it. There is clearly scarring in various areas that he didn't have before. But the amount of scarring is pretty light considering how bad he looked at the end of S1:

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/kBiAyWqPgtQ/hqdefault.jpg

But, eh, like I said, they could literally throw in a single line about him getting some plastic surgery to fix some of it, and it would address that.

Originally posted by Surtur
Apparently the show is going to ignore the events of Infinity War. I saw some article about it. So I'm guessing this takes place after the events of IW, but it's not gonna mention it.

Not surprising. They will want to distance the Netflix shows from the canon now in case they can later reintroduce a new incarnation of Daredevil and/or Punisher.

Originally posted by Surtur
Apparently the show is going to ignore the events of Infinity War. I saw some article about it. So I'm guessing this takes place after the events of IW, but it's not gonna mention it.
Couldn't it just be set before IW?

It's kind of both funny and sad though. There is currently this fairly big fan rally going on to "save Daredevil", as though that is likely to achieve anything.

https://metro.co.uk/2019/01/10/daredevil-petition-save-season-4-climbs-150000-signatures-netflix-better-listening-8329852/

As if the guys in charge actually care.

Don't get me wrong. I would love to be proven wrong and see the show revived. But I just don't see it happening, considering Disney and Marvel's wider business interests and plans. At least not in its current form.

At best, if Disney and Netflix came to an agreement to push out one more season, Disney would likely already start planning ahead to future integration (otherwise, there would be no point for them to do so, in terms of the long run), and force tonal changes in anyways, so it wouldn't be the same show anymore.

Actually those fan rallys have saved a few shows (at least for one more season).

But yeah theres more corporate politics involved here. That said hopefully some execs on both sides can convince both corporations to do something to win over some fan love.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Not surprising. They will want to distance the Netflix shows from the canon now in case they can later reintroduce a new incarnation of Daredevil and/or Punisher.

Can't wait for a Daredevil and Punisher that's all PG-13 and sanitized!

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Actually those fan rallys have saved a few shows (at least for one more season).

But yeah theres more corporate politics involved here. That said hopefully some execs on both sides can convince both corporations to do something to win over some fan love.

I'd try to have him make a small cameo in the next Spiderman film where he teaches Peter how to use his extra senses better. 😄

Then we can have a Spiderman with a functional Spider sense and probably make 90% of the DD fans jizz their pants.

Originally posted by Ridley_Prime
Can't wait for a Daredevil and Punisher that's all PG-13 and sanitized!

Ugh, yeah. That's the thing. Both those shows in particular would have to be horribly bastardised from their current form to fit the Disney PG-13 mould. Everything from the tone, to themes they address, to the level of graphic violence being portrayed would have to be changed.

Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
I'd try to have him make a small cameo in the next Spiderman film where he teaches Peter how to use his extra senses better. 😄

Then we can have a Spiderman with a functional Spider sense and probably make 90% of the DD fans jizz their pants.

That would make Both DD and Spidey fans jizz their pants. Especially if you added in a scene of Kingpin watching the whole thing over cctv.

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Watched the 1st episode. Slow build-up, good climax. I do think, however, I'm going to have the same problem I had with most of these Netflix Marvel series: 13 episodes that could have been condensed into about half that. It just draaaaags on too long before anything happens.

The MCU can’t write complex villains like The Netflix series could. Barring Killmonger who they kill off like all of their potentially good villains, Disney doesn’t have the balls to do anything multi-faceted, dark, or as compelling as the character pieces from the Netflix stories

Looks like I was right regarding the

Spoiler:
facial reconstruction. Madani mentions it as part of Billy's treatments in episode 4.

3 Episodes in and really good so far. Punisher may be my favorite MCU character

watched the 1st 3 episodes.. best ep so far was the 3rd one.

I am about halfway through, and I really want to like this, because it's likely the last season, but it has not been good for me so far. Great acting and performances from the cast. Great action sequences.

However, the plot is flimsier than bargain bin, 1-ply toilet paper, and really does not warrant 8 episodes, let alone 13. One of the main characters actually summarises the entire plot so far in a sentence in episode 6, and, rightfully, makes it sound stupid. Because it is. And, because of this, the show is dragging terribly for me at the moment. Because there simply isn't enough story, so characters meander about a lot, and we get things like nothing montages of people putting on makeup or buying laptops and crap, just to fill screen time.

I'm hoping it picks up in the 2nd half though, and ends on a strong note.

I'm up to episode 8 right now so far I'm really enjoying it. Yes episode 3 has been my favorite so far...such a great episode.

It's strange to say cuz I'm usually more into the shows with powers...those are what I look forward to the most, but the Punisher has turned out to be the best of the Marvel shows IMO.