Originally posted by celeyhyga17
No one is disputing the fact that the ring was destroyed before Doosday was koed. No one even made a claim that a gl ring is more durable than Doomsday. This part of your post is essentially a complete waste of time.Was going to bring that up, but did not do so since no one really did. But since you did, when in DoS DD's showings have him explicitly tapping into a power source other than his own? In this particular instance he not only was in possession of a gl ring he was "intuitively" tapping into, but it was also posited by a Guardian no less that he was feeding on said Guardian's power.
Again you are going off into a tangent that really doesn't further your case. What does a Guardian being overall more powerful than GL's have to do with anything I've pointed out?
That's all well and good, but you are completely glossing over the fact that the Guardian was struggling with Lantern Doomy from the get go. Heck Doomy not only tanked a powerful barrage of salvos with the sole purpose of stopping him, but he also blasted the dang imp with ring energy and seemed to hurt him. So no. Doomy with his gl ring must have been channeling tremendous amount of energy vs this Guardian. Remember he was INTUITIVELY was tapping into the ring's power backed by a will that was so terrible that the Guardian began to falter(as per the comic).
More ineffectual scans... 🙁
You do know this only serves to weaken your stance right? Hello... "INTUITIVELY TAPPING" and "So TERRIBLE was the monster's WILL".....
Again... Not really helping here.
It really is simple. In regards to the ring, what destroyed it, melted it, made it disappear, or however you want to call it? If you can answer that easily, there really is no argument to be had.
Any parts of it you felt didn't apply to your part of the discussion likely means they weren't for you specifically.
Which is why you weren't quoted.
So quit being self-important and claiming any of it's useless or meaningless towards your own personal posts.
2) The Guardian only theorized that Doomsday may be absorbing his power. But we've never seen him do that. So his theory is unfounded. His origin in comics and his Secret Origin bios contains explanations of his power. Energy absorption is something the original Doomsday never displayed. So if you want to run this theory, find more evidence. I'll wait.
3) You wanted to bring up that last one, it was the narrative you were trying to build up to while everyone was pointing out how bad you've been trolling about about Doomsday tanking that blast. ... Slowly evolving your debate to the claim that Doomsday didn't do that on his own. It was because of the ring. That he didn't have. No wait. That it was only because of the Guardians power he stole.
Originally posted by celeyhyga17
b) DD possibly adapting to the Guardian's power and absorbing it.
Originally posted by celeyhyga17And this is not even getting into the power he absorbed.
Originally posted by celeyhyga17
very important factors like DD absorbing a portion of the Guardian's power.
Originally posted by celeyhyga17
who ever else has perpetuated this feat w/o even a hint of DD absorbing power
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3) Doomsday used the ring to strike back against the Guardian, but there is no evidence of Doomsday using a forcefield from the ring in that encounter. Zero. The power being let off by the Guardian causes the green glow. It wasn't there as Doomsday approached and initiated. Doomsday was adapting to the attacks, meaning they were hitting him, farther showing that he hadn't used a forcefield. He has never displayed the ability to adapt to an attack that bounced off of a forcefield. If you want to run that narrative, find more evidence. I'll wait.
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4) He lost the ring before the final explosion of power anyways. He was in ground zero. With no ring. With no absorbed power.
Originally posted by Juntai
1) I broke down the discussion from many angles.Any parts of it you felt didn't apply to your part of the discussion likely means they weren't for you specifically.
Which is why you weren't quoted.
So quit being self-important and claiming any of it's useless or meaningless towards your own personal posts.
2) The Guardian only theorized that Doomsday may be absorbing his power. But we've never seen him do that. So his theory is unfounded. His origin in comics and his Secret Origin bios contains explanations of his power. Energy absorption is something the original Doomsday never displayed. So if you want to run this theory, find more evidence. I'll wait.
3) You wanted to bring up that last one, it was the narrative you were trying to build up to while everyone was pointing out how bad you've been trolling about about Doomsday tanking that blast. ... Slowly evolving your debate to the claim that Doomsday didn't do that on his own. It was because of the ring. That he didn't have. No wait. That it was only because of the Guardians power he stole.
2. Backed by artist depiction of Lantern Doomy turning bright green after the Guardian posited that claim. Even after the book specifically stated that DD may be adapting then followed by the claim of absorbing? You're really just going against the overall tone of the story if taking this stance. It couldn't be any clearer what the writer was trying to portray. And this time he had a gl ring!
3. Who's everyone?
Evolve what? I had already mentioned absorbing to the first person who brought up this feat... Long before you even chimed in. Don't come at me with that... Smh. 🙁
You thought that was trolling? So even after the fact that I'm using on panel evidence to back my stance, you think this is trolling? That is mighty sensitive of you. I hope to god you don't actually think I'm trolling just because I disagree with you.
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Originally posted by Juntai
3) Doomsday used the ring to strike back against the Guardian, but there is no evidence of Doomsday using a forcefield from the ring. Zero. The power being let off by the Guardian causes the green glow. It wasn't there as Doomsday approached and initiated. Doomsday was adapting to the attacks, meaning they were hitting him. He has never displayed the ability to adapt to an attack that bounced off of a forcefield. If you want to run that narrative, find more evidence. I'll wait.Then;
4) He lost the ring before the final explosion of power anyways. He was in ground zero. With no ring. With no absorbed power.
4. He was in ground zero. The blast was described as a release of the totality of his energies. Implying BIG BLAST with DD at ground zero. You are basically saying it hit ONLY the ring first then everything else.
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Originally posted by celeyhyga17
1. Who else is really making an argument other than me? Only OnePunch mentioned something which pretty much only served to reiterate my point. It's as if you are now just making an attempt to insert "self important" just to downplay what was essentially a thinly veiled post towards the poser of the original argument. Me.2. Backed by artist depiction of Lantern Doomy turning bright green after the Guardian posited that claim. Even after the book specifically stated that DD may be adapting then followed by the claim of absorbing? You're really just going against the overall tone of the story if taking this stance. It couldn't be any clearer what the writer was trying to portray. And this time he had a gl ring!
3. Who's everyone?
Evolve what? I had already mentioned absorbing to the first person who brought up this feat... Long before you even chimed in. Don't come at me with that... Smh. 🙁
You thought that was trolling? So even after the fact that I'm using on panel evidence to back my stance, you think this is trolling? That is mighty sensitive of you. I hope to god you don't actually think I'm trolling just because I disagree with you.
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3. A gl can be hurt by any attack if said attack is powerful enough. Be it physical or esoteric it doesn't matter. If you disagree you are waving away a large majority of gl portrayals.
4. He was in ground zero. The blast was described as a release of the totality of his energies. Implying BIG BLAST with DD at ground zero. You are basically saying it hit ONLY the ring first then everything else.
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False. The scene, including Doomsday, turned green the moment the Guardian appeared. His own light causing it.
The rest of that nonsense was already covered.
No absorb. No shield depicted.
It's up to you to prove these. But seeing as it's not in Doomsday's powerset to absorb and amp, you'll be hard-pressed. He has never been portrayed like that. And he was never shown putting up a shield in this encounter. And the narration only ever mentioned him using the ring offensively in this encounter to strike back. Defensively, only Doomsday's natural defenses were mentioned.
And yes, trolling is ignoring evidence repeatedly.
Just as you're doing with Doomsday's green glow, and Doomsday's melted ring.
Originally posted by Juntai
False. The scene, including Doomsday, turned green the moment the Guardian appeared. His own light causing it.The rest of that nonsense was already covered.
No absorb. No shield depicted.
It's up to you to prove these. But seeing as it's not in Doomsday's powerset to absorb and amp, you'll be hard-pressed. He has never been portrayed like that. And he was never shown putting up a shield in this encounter. And the narration only ever mentioned him using the ring offensively in this encounter to strike back. Defensively, only Doomsday's natural defenses were mentioned.
And yes, trolling is ignoring evidence repeatedly.
Just as you're doing with Doomsday's green glow, and Doomsday's melted ring.
Yes the Guardian's green reflected off of him. And not really the most viable representation of your point considering it was a tiny rendition of both characters in question. Also the following panel where there is actual detail due to a close up, we see no hint of bright green other than on the Guardian.
This scan is even better. First panel has both combatants bright green what with all the blasting going around. And then the very next panel the writer/artist chose to keep the bright green on Doomy to coincide with the very important detail of adapting then feeding off of the very power in question.
Again how one can argue that the Doomy's use of the gl ring and what transpired between the two combatants played no part in some way mitigating the final suicide attack of the Guardian, is simply turning away from the truths depicted in these pages.
Yep, I see the scene. Doomsday is green as soon as the Guardian appears. The light cast from the Guardians power engulfs him. He is knocked back, away from the Guardian, and the light is off of him, but as comes back to the fight, the green is cast over him again.
If you want to believe Doomsday was absorbing and amping from Guardian energy, you need to prove it. Because it's not in his powers.
Doomsday was never shown using the ring defensively in that encounter. It was also never mentioned. What WAS mentioned, was Doomsday's innate ability to adapt. If you feel otherwise, you need to prove it. But it's not in the writing or depiction.
The only mentioned use of said ring is to attack the Guardian.
Doomsday's ring vanished. And then he was hit. This is why the ring melted, and then he was blown away, koed, and fell through the tear in space.
Wearing a GL ring doesn't protect you by itself.
http://www.comicvine.com/images/1300-3655145
Originally posted by Juntai
Yep, I see the scene. Doomsday is green as soon as the Guardian appears. The light cast from the Guardians power engulfs him. He is knocked back, away from the Guardian, and the light is off of him, but as comes back to the fight, the green is cast over him again.
Originally posted by Juntai
If you want to believe Doomsday was absorbing and amping from Guardian energy, you need to prove it. Because it's not in his powers.Doomsday was never shown using the ring defensively in that encounter. It was also never mentioned. What WAS mentioned, was Doomsday's innate ability to adapt. If you feel otherwise, you need to prove it. But it's not in the writing or depiction.
The only mentioned use of said ring is to attack the Guardian.
So let's see... Ability to adapt, has a gl ring, and the comic made it a strong point in the story of him feeding on the Guardian's energy. Knowing those three important pieces of information, you are going to tell me and any sane person out there that there was no way he could have absorbed energy from the Guardian? Should you really be in a position to cry trolling?
Originally posted by Juntai
Doomsday's ring vanished. And then he was hit. This is why the ring melted, and then he was blown away, koed, and fell through the tear in space.
Originally posted by Juntai
Wearing a GL ring doesn't protect you by itself.
http://www.comicvine.com/images/1300-3655145
Just to hammer that point home...
Rayner must have superhuman durability vs Grayven.
http://s78.photobucket.com/user/Rewmac/media/Scans/GreenLantern97p01.jpg.html
http://s78.photobucket.com/user/Rewmac/media/Scans/GreenLantern97p05.jpg.html
Or here vs Mongul.
http://s118.photobucket.com/user/bigbran1/media/Superman/Green_Lantern_1994-52-21.jpg.html
Or here vs Effigy.
http://s78.photobucket.com/user/Rewmac/media/Scans/Green%20Lantern/Green_Lantern_1999-114-06.jpg.html
Same here with Guy and Hal.
https://arousinggrammardotcom.files.wordpress.com/2014/04/haljordanguygardner5.jpg?w=590&h=889
And Hal vs Mongul.
http://embed.gyazo.com/c1d5fa8860254ceb5ccc4e1db33d31ee.png
Hundreds more where those came from, but by now you get the picture.
Blinding instant THEN devastating effect.
Doomsday tanked it.
Saying otherwise is just plain trolling, that is why they can't answer a simple question, because they can't say with a straight face that they don't get atomized
