World War Hulk vs DOS Doomsday

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Yes. The bright green is shown in their blast fight like I pointed out earlier. Then he is depicted as bright green in the very same panel the Guardian posited that DD may be adapting and feeding off of his power.

Dude. The damn comic made it a compelling point in the scene which ultimately caused the Guardian to sacrifice himself. In fact, the Guardian even went so far as to refuse the other Guardians from adding their power to his because of that specific thing for fear of DD possibly feeding on theirs as well. Are we not reading the same book here?
And it's like you are forgetting he had a gl ring on. A ring in which DD was "INTUITIVELY" tapping into. A ring that was backed by tremendous will(again as per the comic). A ring that was specifically programmed to defend it's user from mortal injury(as per the comic) and has been used to describe gl rings on more than one occasion. And yet you now say DD received no defensive benefits even though he can fly and blast like he's been using it for years... 🙁

So let's see... Ability to adapt, has a gl ring, and the comic made it a strong point in the story of him feeding on the Guardian's energy. Knowing those three important pieces of information, you are going to tell me and any sane person out there that there was no way he could have absorbed energy from the Guardian? Should you really be in a position to cry trolling?

Wtf? This does not make sense.

I've already addressed this issue with Philo. Auras/shields are not always depicted in a comic even when a lantern is being attacked. It doesn't mean they are receiving no defensive benefits from it. Taking this stance would only look bad for you. Heck in the same book DD was plowing through multiple gl's on panel and not one was depicted with an green aura.

Just to hammer that point home...

Rayner must have superhuman durability vs Grayven.
http://s78.photobucket.com/user/Rewmac/media/Scans/GreenLantern97p01.jpg.html
http://s78.photobucket.com/user/Rewmac/media/Scans/GreenLantern97p05.jpg.html

Or here vs Mongul.
http://s118.photobucket.com/user/bigbran1/media/Superman/Green_Lantern_1994-52-21.jpg.html

Or here vs Effigy.
http://s78.photobucket.com/user/Rewmac/media/Scans/Green%20Lantern/Green_Lantern_1999-114-06.jpg.html

Same here with Guy and Hal.
https://arousinggrammardotcom.files.wordpress.com/2014/04/haljordanguygardner5.jpg?w=590&h=889

And Hal vs Mongul.
http://embed.gyazo.com/c1d5fa8860254ceb5ccc4e1db33d31ee.png

Hundreds more where those came from, but by now you get the picture.

There are many instances of humans surviving class 100 attacks in comics. So your examples could just show PIS.

Originally posted by h1a8
you committed a strawman. The original argument was that GL are not always protected when you don't see an aura. You changed the argument to everytime a GL isn't shown an aura then it means they are not protected. Although this argument is maybe true it wasn't the original argument. The fact that Batman busted his nose either proves that GL are not always protected when you don't see an aura or that Batman had class 100 strength there.

There are many instances of humans surviving class 100 attacks in comics. So your examples could just show PIS.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Yes. The bright green is shown in their blast fight like I pointed out earlier. Then he is depicted as bright green in the very same panel the Guardian posited that DD may be adapting and feeding off of his power.

Dude. The damn comic made it a compelling point in the scene which ultimately caused the Guardian to sacrifice himself. In fact, the Guardian even went so far as to refuse the other Guardians from adding their power to his because of that specific thing for fear of DD possibly feeding on theirs as well. Are we not reading the same book here?
And it's like you are forgetting he had a gl ring on. A ring in which DD was "INTUITIVELY" tapping into. A ring that was backed by tremendous will(again as per the comic). A ring that was specifically programmed to defend it's user from mortal injury(as per the comic) and has been used to describe gl rings on more than one occasion. And yet you now say DD received no defensive benefits even though he can fly and blast like he's been using it for years... 🙁

So let's see... Ability to adapt, has a gl ring, and the comic made it a strong point in the story of him feeding on the Guardian's energy. Knowing those three important pieces of information, you are going to tell me and any sane person out there that there was no way he could have absorbed energy from the Guardian? Should you really be in a position to cry trolling?

Wtf? This does not make sense.

I've already addressed this issue with Philo. Auras/shields are not always depicted in a comic even when a lantern is being attacked. It doesn't mean they are receiving no defensive benefits from it. Taking this stance would only look bad for you. Heck in the same book DD was plowing through multiple gl's on panel and not one was depicted with an green aura.

Just to hammer that point home...

Rayner must have superhuman durability vs Grayven.
http://s78.photobucket.com/user/Rewmac/media/Scans/GreenLantern97p01.jpg.html
http://s78.photobucket.com/user/Rewmac/media/Scans/GreenLantern97p05.jpg.html

Or here vs Mongul.
http://s118.photobucket.com/user/bigbran1/media/Superman/Green_Lantern_1994-52-21.jpg.html

Or here vs Effigy.
http://s78.photobucket.com/user/Rewmac/media/Scans/Green%20Lantern/Green_Lantern_1999-114-06.jpg.html

Same here with Guy and Hal.
https://arousinggrammardotcom.files.wordpress.com/2014/04/haljordanguygardner5.jpg?w=590&h=889

And Hal vs Mongul.
http://embed.gyazo.com/c1d5fa8860254ceb5ccc4e1db33d31ee.png

Hundreds more where those came from, but by now you get the picture.

Originally posted by One-Punch
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I refutted that here

Originally posted by h1a8
you committed a strawman. The original argument was that GL are not always protected when you don't see an aura. You changed the argument to everytime a GL isn't shown an aura then it means they are not protected. Although this argument is maybe true it wasn't the original argument. The fact that Batman busted his nose either proves that GL are not always protected when you don't see an aura or that Batman had class 100 strength there.

There are many instances of humans surviving class 100 attacks in comics. So your examples could just show PIS.

Classic GL rings only had force fields for mortal attacks.

They did not have auto shields like Kyle and Hal had after Johns changed the power set in Rebirth.
Just because Doomsday had a ring doesn't means it had given him an auto shield.

Read some GL comics and come back.

Here is a panel-by-panel breakdown with my 2 cents...

Here we see the Guardian confront and blast Doomsday. We can see that the Guardian is clearly encompassed by a green aura, while DD is not:

DD is being illuminated by the green light the Guardian is generating.

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Here Doomsday appears to be encompassed by GL energies. However, said energies seem to be residual bleed-over from the Guardian's blast:

The energy looks much too 'wild' to be a defensive aura/auto-shield or whatever.

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Again we see the Guardian clearly encompassed by a visible aura, while DD is not:

The only visible aura DD is generating is confined solely to his right hand(around the ring.) If the intent was for the ring to be shielding him, we would have seen the same type of aura around his entire body, imo.

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This panel give us contrast:

Once more we see the Guardian clearly emitting a green aura, while DD is not.

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And finally, DD is once again illuminated green, secondary to the Guardian charging/releasing his final kamikaze attack:

Again, just my opinion. 👆

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The dead giveaway is that the ring is clearly melting before the blast sends Doomsday flying. Even if the time interval between (1) the ring melting and (2) the blast touching doomsday and sending him flying is minuscule, it doesn't matter - the ring was already compromised by the point it hits him.

Guardian total release of energy kamikaze omniblast - "let me specifically target an object that is only about an inch or so in size and avoid the hulking behemoth it is sitting on top of"

Essentially what is being said here if the omniblast was sentient. Utterly dumb as rocks.

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Apparently a melted GL ring can protect you now.

Still doesn't get. Probably never will.

I believe it did melt away also. Let's see, either the ring protected Doomsday or it didn't. The comic itself tells us he took the blast! "Would that the story ended there... "But, alas, the Guardian's sacrifice had not destroyed the monster." "Though none realized it at that time, the explosion had torn a hole in space itself, though which the monster had been hurled. It had been broken and bloodied, but it still lived!" "Unconscious".

Either the Guardians explosion caused Doomsday to get broken and bloodied and unconscious, or Doomsday got broken and bloodied and koed by going through the hole in space. We know he was fine before the explosion and he wasn't after it and going through the hole in space. The Guardians sacrifice is pretty clear what caused Doomsdays battered body. Darkseid himself never got that close to koing Doomsday! 😱

Originally posted by kevdude
I believe it did melt away also. Let's see, either the ring protected Doomsday or it didn't. The comic itself tells us he took the blast! "Would that the story ended there... "But, alas, the Guardian's sacrifice had not destroyed the monster." "Though none realized it at that time, the explosion had torn a hole in space itself, though which the monster had been hurled. It had been broken and bloodied, but it still lived!" "Unconscious".

Either the Guardians explosion caused Doomsday to get broken and bloodied and unconscious, or Doomsday got broken and bloodied and koed by going through the hole in space. We know he was fine before the explosion and he wasn't after it and going through the hole in space. The Guardians sacrifice is pretty clear what caused Doomsdays battered body. Darkseid himself never got that close to koing Doomsday! 😱

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Still doesn't get. Probably never will.

Your opinion is officially worthless now. You seriously don't know how to read comics.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
It did melt away and DD dig get hurt by the blast. 👆

Okay so why do you think the ring protected him? The heat from the Guardian getting ready to explode right in his face melted the ring before the Guardians sacrifice.

Originally posted by kevdude
Okay so why do you think the ring protected him? The heat from the Guardian getting ready to explode right in his face melted the ring before the Guardians sacrifice.

The ring just doesn't get destroyed without DD feeling that blast. I mean the ring is sitting on top of his finger. It simply doesn't follow proper logic to have a kamikaze omnidirectional release of total energy blast to specifically target a tiny object and bypass the very being it was sitting on top of.

No one is claiming that DD was not hurt or the ring was not destroyed.

Doomsday took the total devastating effect.

Cele, the ring was destroyed in that instant the Guardian released his energies. Say's it right there in the comic. It didn't help Doomsday at all. That's what we're talking about right? 😕

Originally posted by kevdude
Cele, the ring was destroyed in that instant the Guardian released his energies. Say's it right there in the comic. It didn't help Doomsday at all. That's what we're talking about right? 😕

I'm gonna ask you a few questions.

What destroyed the GL ring?

Are you guys still arguing about what an instant means against a Guardian?

Didn't one just get killed by Black Adam?

Honestly, DoS just seemed a lot more impressive. Or barring that, you could go with him scurring Darkseid by killing his childhood pal.

DOS DD wins.