Originally posted by dadudemon
You couldn't, actually. Alcohol is not a thought. It's a thing. Banning an entire religious group is not a thing. It is something they believe. A thought.
Japan Shut Down Radical Islam Entirely… And Here’s the Simple Way They Did It
JAPAN & ISLAM: The Japanese Don’t Have A Terrorist Problem For This BRILLIANT Reason
Originally posted by Stigma
Interesting read:[b]Japan Shut Down Radical Islam Entirely… And Here’s the Simple Way They Did It
I don't think we should celebrate Japan's xenophobia, ignorance, and bigotry. But you cannot deny that their results are quite substantive.
Originally posted by dadudemon
This makes sense. It's shitty that a woman would even have to consider those things. But it is far shittier to get raped.I mean...it is common sense.
Don't drive an extremely nice car wearing really nice clothes and jewelry and then walk around the place...in a neighborhood full of known gangsters. It's like dangling a piece of meat in front of alligators and getting pissed off when they take a bite.
This libtarded nonsense of "OMG! Don't victim blame. How dare you!" can actually be quite harmful. Tell your daughters to not visit those places, perhaps? Tell them to not dress like whores in those places (but, by all means, let them dress like whores if they want...just make sure the venue with which you decide to dress like a whore does not greatly increase your chances of getting assaulted or raped).
Man, where did common sense go? This Politically Correct bullshit needs to change. "Don't victim blame!" Okay. Then let your daughters dress like whores and hang out in places where rape rates are known to be higher. We wouldn't want to victim blame, now would we? Derpy doooo!
While you'd be stupid walking down the street at night with a fistful of cash in a known high-crime neighborhood, it's still nonsense victim-blaming going "well, they should have known better, so too bad". Yes, they should have known better, but it's the criminal who is to blame in committing the crime, not the person who made a stupid decision.
Women are generally aware of things they can do decrease their chances of getting raped (and increase the chance of some other poor woman).
But focussing on it, often to the exclusion of the actual blame on the perpetrators, is what the problem is. An it happens way to often, contributing to the prevalence of sexual harrassment, assault and rape. Additionally a lot of the things to do are extreme cuts into a persons freedom and self expression and it is horrible that women have to do that.
Originally posted by Bardock42
Women are generally aware of things they can do decrease their chances of getting raped (and increase the chance of some other poor woman).But focussing on it, often to the exclusion of the actual blame on the perpetrators, is what the problem is. An it happens way to often, contributing to the prevalence of sexual harrassment, assault and rape. Additionally a lot of the things to do are extreme cuts into a persons freedom and self expression and it is horrible that women have to do that.
So...what you're actually saying? What should Germany do about migrants that shift blame for rape/harassment on women or alcohol?
Originally posted by Bardock42
Women are generally aware of things they can do decrease their chances of getting raped (and increase the chance of some other poor woman).But focussing on it, often to the exclusion of the actual blame on the perpetrators, is what the problem is. An it happens way to often, contributing to the prevalence of sexual harrassment, assault and rape. Additionally a lot of the things to do are extreme cuts into a persons freedom and self expression and it is horrible that women have to do that.
Women hater confirmed
I mean for me I don't care if a woman is naked. If you can't control yourself in terms of not sexually assaulting her then you do not belong free to walk the streets.
I really don't care what the reason is, I don't care if it's a part of their sick culture or if it's just tolerated more or whatever the excuse is. What separates us from animals is our ability to not cave in to our instincts, the ability to choose another route. If someone can't do that they need to be removed from society because they are in fact no better then mere animals.
Originally posted by Stigma
You wrote that as if you were a graduate of the Soviet School of Rhetoric 😛So...what you're actually saying? What should Germany do about migrants that shift blame for rape/harassment on women or alcohol?
If you read my post as if it was addressing the issue in Germany, rather than the topic of victim blaming that Rob and dadudemon discussed, I can see why it would seem very odd.
I think what we should be doing is the same thing we should be doing when anyone blames the clothes women wear or the alcohol women consume, we should speak out against it, point out why it is misguided and actually helps rapists, and hopefully convince more and more people to not jump to these victim-blaming conclusions.
Originally posted by Stigma
I thought that was chiefly the Radical Muslim reasoning.
Nah, this is a very common response in Western countries as well, perpetrated by white, christians or secular people. Feminists have been speaking out about it for many years, and yes, the sexist, patriarchal people in Muslim countries think the same awful way.