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Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Everyone here thinks the government creates jobs.
Of course it can, in two ways.
One, it can hire people directly, or two, it can do things that encourage economic growth and other company's hiring.
The New Deal caused employment to rise considerably. Obama's stimulus is credited with some 3 million jobs.
Some people live in a world where some jobs 'don't count,' but this is largely a fantasy. A government doing something to make jobs is no different than companies doing the same thing- the import thing is that the things get done. Three million jobs doesn't just 'not count,' because you don't like that it's the result of a government policy, that's flat silly.
Though that said, none of the three are likely to make too many jobs whoever is elected, because we're approaching what is known as 'peak employment.' Where if unemployment drops much more, the big employment problem will be companies having trouble finding people. Making jobs to match growth is about the best one can/should do.
Hm... I guess Trump could possibly make the most by losing jobs first ^^ Oh yea! Deporting millions of people will cause a localized economic collapse, and trying to fix that will involve many 'jobs' after the big unemployment spike all the closed companies will cause.
Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Of the three top canidates
Well, the economy does better under democratic presidents, so either Clinton or Sanders. Clinton would probably continue the very successful course of Obama, which has decreased unemployment significantly. On the other hand Sanders social policies could lead to more jobs and free up third jobs that people have to take up to make ends meet. So I'm not sure, either would be good.
Originally posted by Bentley
Aren't you poles giving power to another extremist nationalist regime already?
Current rulling party Law and Justice is akin to Britain's conservative UKIP.
Besides, in Poland we have parties that are more on the Right like Kukiz 15 (3rd political power in our Parliament) and KORWIN which did not enter it during last election.
On a side-note: If you compare a democratically elected government to the one forcebly imposed by the Soviet Communists, it's rather distasteful and ignorant, to say the least.
On another note: I know in France Mrs. Le Pen is gaing popularity with her national-conservative National Front party, possibly winning the next election. You may need to get accustomed to change in the political ambience. 👆
Originally posted by Stigma
To a nationalist and conservative party, yes. To extremists, no.Current rulling party Law and Justice is akin to Britain's conservative UKIP.
Besides, in Poland we have parties that are more on the Right like Kukiz 15 (3rd political power in our Parliament) and KORWIN which did not enter it during last election.
On a side-note: If you compare a democratically elected government to the one forcebly imposed by the Soviet Communists, it's rather distasteful and ignorant, to say the least.
On another note: I know in France Mrs. Le Pen is gaing popularity with her national-conservative National Front party, possibly winning the next election. You may need to get accustomed to change in the political ambience. 👆
Well, I really hope that your current ruling party acts legitimate and valid as you make it sound 👆
You know, part of my wariness towards Conservative or extreme-left National parties is precisely that France has been under an imposed foreign government before. During that time, a good chunk of the french population willingly participated in the government efforts of the occupation. Some of those same people (let's not call them traitors) went to become partisans of the now poll-favorite National Front.
Is it true that the Government is trying to control national media? In other European countries that's certainly raising some eyebrows.
Originally posted by Bentley
Well, I really hope that your current ruling party acts legitimate and valid as you make it sound 👆
Originally posted by Bentley
You know, part of my wariness towards Conservative or extreme-left National parties is precisely that France has been under an imposed foreign government before. During that time, a good chunk of the french population willingly participated in the government efforts of the occupation. Some of those same people (let's not call them traitors) went to become partisans of the now poll-favorite National Front.
Originally posted by Bentley
Is it true that the Government is trying to control national media? In other European countries that's certainly raising some eyebrows.
The problem is that the public media, which are state owned, were always, shall I say, partial to the current rulling elite.
What we observe now is the change in the hierarchy at the top, with leftists being dumped in favor of the right. The exact same thing happened 8 years ago, but with the right being dumped in favor of the left.
TL;DR version: Public media are state-owned in Poland, whoever is rulling de facto will in some ways influence them.
This is a problem of bad law regulations that have not been clarified since the Communsit era and do not match modern times.
However, by far the biggest chunk of the media in Poland is private. Most seem to be pro-liberal, with some definitely with a conservative turn.
That makes quite a lot of sense put into perspective, as you might guess, despite being in the Euro zone, we only get tiny bits of information whenever major political shifts happen in different countries. That's a thing that should probably change at some point, french public opinion is terribly narrow.
All in all you give me good news, so I'm satisfied and thankful of becoming more educated on the subject. Hopefully the vestiges from former Communist organizations will be throughly cleansed in the near future. They were really nests for all kinds of corruption.
Originally posted by Bentley
That makes quite a lot of sense put into perspective, as you might guess, despite being in the Euro zone, we only get tiny bits of information whenever major political shifts happen in different countries. That's a thing that should probably change at some point, french public opinion is terribly narrow.All in all you give me good news, so I'm satisfied and thankful of becoming more educated on the subject. Hopefully the vestiges from former Communist organizations will be throughly cleansed in the near future. They were really nests for all kinds of corruption.
The truth is media, be it private or public, always serve an agenda and they are a powerful tool to push certain things. But hey, at least we have the Internet.
Also, my French friend, I hope people of good will and of common sense can unite amidst all this info chaos.