Originally posted by Galan007
The fact that Elijah couldn't avoid the Batarangs simply tells us that he only possesses human-ish perception/reaction speed(for a point of comparison, Jakita dodged them casually.) That's pretty important when he's facing an opponent as fast as Spidey.Elijah freezing the battlefield is cool and all, but it wouldn't really hinder Spidey, so it's a moot tactic. Imo.
The point is that Elijah has never used heat reduction to freeze someone who wasn't within a few feet of him(again, if I'm not remembering a specific feat please show me.) This is important because if he has to wait until Spidey gets that close before he tries offensively freezing him, then it comes down to whether or not he can react/freeze Spidey before Spidey bludgeons/webs the shit out of him. Essentially: human perception/reaction vs. meta perception/reaction.
Not saying Elijah can't win, but it's certainly not a clear-cut case, imo.
Agreed - but again, over 500m means that Spidey's speed is largely negated.
Elijah could freeze over massive areas - a small focussed area like Spidey's brain is much easier (which was the point I was going for).
This is IF Elijah doesn't just go for the lethal option from the get go. Or freeze his piss...
A bit further than Dracula, here. I honestly don't see why , if he is able to freeze an area the size of an entire street in a single panel, or over a giant field, why Spidey's fluids at 400m (or whatever it is the distance that Spidey will cover in the first few seconds) would pose any problem.
Over a shorter distance, then yes, sure, Spidey outspeeds him. But carrying all that web-FLUID (which becomes solid at room temperature and pressure)? over THAT distance? When he still has internals to attack? It's really Elijah's fight to lose.