Originally posted by Surtur
What about her lies?
She's got a higher honest rating according to third party fact checkers than any Republican candidate, btw.
If that disqualifies her, then pretty much everyone in the race should step down bar none.
Or can we finally admit that someone being weasally about minor matters that don't affect much, actually has little bearing on their skills to be president? Or even flip-flopping and changing their minds on things, or using politicial doublespeak?
We all really care about policies. I think it says a lot that people who oppose her have problem pointing to what policies she supports that's supposedly so bad, and instead look to nitpicky stuff to try and attack her character- even though, as mentioned, you can check the truth-telling rating of every candidate and see for yourself that she stacks up quite well in comparison. Who's told the fewest big lies, who's accurate the most, and so on.
Precisely no-one I know judges who they follow by who has the high honesty rating, and stuff that Time and many others tries to pull with, "Ah ha! There's a dishonesty in this one little side issue, how can you follow this horrible candidate??" can either be followed by, one, going into return mud slinging and preventing any real discussion of the issues, or two, brief acknowledgement before going on to stuff that really matters.
The intense focus on the e-mails is, IMO, done largely by fearful people who feel they can't win on issues, because it *is* so clearly a minor issue that affects no-one and caused no harm, it's not even an ongoing concern.
Did she or did she not say there was no classified info on her server? If she did, why should this person ever be allowed in the White House in any capacity besides a tour of the place?
She did, and "because being sent unlabeled classified stuff- from people authorized to have it- is not a big deal."
Remember, *no* data was breached or lost. Zero, ziltch. No operatives were either harmed or potentially harmed. No one got any information they were not authorized to- Everyone involved had full reason to have the information, the sole problem was the method it was passed.
It's like.... imagine a generalonce sent a classified note by strapping it to a pet cat, who then returned it to their owner down the hallway, successfully, and they did this a few times because the cat always went direct from one to the other. Then at some point they stopped, then at some point after they were done it got found out and called upon. Silly? Yes. Exactly as bad as this situation, legally speaking? Also yes. Would you expect a courtmarshel or, well, *anything* significant to happen to such a general for using cat-transit?
If people want to say "the emails weren't classified at the time" then..well, wait, what? That just makes no sense to me. Shouldn't this shit be deemed classified or not classified before hand?
Opinions vary.
If non-classified material has the potential to become retroactively classified then um..shouldn't all that shit just be classified then? What kind of retarded system is this?
Things do get pretty stupid.
The Pentagon's cafeteria menu is classified. It is the same as the menu of many unclassified facilities.
There's also some classified codes on wikipedia for you... not wikileaks, wikipedia.
Either we have the most utterly inept system ever(which is possible) or Hilary is a liar just like her hubby. I honestly think every american should be crossing there fingers it was Hilary. Since if it was? Okay, that is one person. If not? Well we have an entire department that is so utterly inept it defies imagination.
Whoa, what makes you think this is one department?
I'm not even sure which ones went around classifying stuff. The military does it all the time.
Overclassification is something people have grumbled about as a problem- and only grumbled about because it doesn't really cause too much problem, it doesn't stop function in any sense, it's not really a sign of 'utter ineptness.' Usually it's a sign of someone going, 'better safe than sorry,' resulting in silliness.
Where files can be sent out non classified and then magically later on be deemed classified. As if the definition for "classified" is something the government struggles with.
Tons of things start out as non-classified. Someone has to *judge* something as worthy of being classified. Some categories are pre-judged, like, "location of troops," and a number of other things, but any uncertain information has to go to someone for classification first. Something can also start as irrelevant but then later become more important and gain classification.
Post-9/11, there was a huuuuge classification spree, as I understand it. Just because people started getting overly jumpy about it.