Tim Allen says Clintons are like herpes

Started by Surtur6 pages

I'm sorry but no..he's not irrelevant. A widely panned tv series doesn't change the fact it's been on the air for 5 seasons, and still going strong. If it's being panned yet lasting for 100 episodes it means a decent chunk of people have to be watching, that is sort of how these things work. Irrelevant and "doing great work" are not necessarily the same thing.

You can talk about the ratings, but you do know that a show heavily praised by critics..has gotten way way less ratings then this show, right? The show I'm talking about is Mad Men. The ratings were enough for it to make it to 100 episodes.

So nope, not irrelevant. Is he making the best shit on tv? Nope. He's relevant, he's a known celebrity on a show that in it's latest season has averaged 6 million+ viewers. He could be Tim Allen star of a current tv show..or he could be Tim Allen the guy who works at the grocery store. Doesn't make what he said any less true. So lets end the silly discussion about relevancy.

Originally posted by snowdragon
See, you are cute in the fact that you obviously have never worked in any capacity regarding clearances or for the govt.

Opinions like this put you pretty much rank in file with followers of trump who don't care either except you do that for hillary.

Look, I'm also going by what I see the experts saying. The DOJ says they don't care and think there's nothing important on the serves either, and they've seen it.

So, with no new developments in, what, half a year? More? With the experts saying it's no biggie, and millions spent on investigation not saying anything... I'm left with, "Who do I trust more, the experts who say it was ill-advised but not illegal at the time and not serious, and regardless, nothing actually got out, and is entirely in the past tense, or the people with an obvious axe to the grind?".

If the Department of Justice thought something was up, I'd take it seriously, but as I am a layperson, I'm not going to take an opinion of another layperson over, you know, the authorities who's job it is to say what's important and not at the highest levels.


It is what it is Patraeus broke the law and was punished, honestly his punishment was super light but comparing Hillary to his misdeeds is neither here nor there.

I bring him up mostly because you said there's no-way someone else would get off, and then someone got off with a super-light punishment for notably worse action.


Also it clearly doesn't matter to you at all, you are one of her supporters that will cling to her no matter what. That's fine but like I said you should probably think twice about making fun of trumpsters when you are stuck on hillary🙂

Here's the thing- You say "No matter what," when the thing being pushed is... the exact same thing that's been pushed at for month, where the big issue seems to be not any real damage but the principle of the thing.

Among the people not caring are the Department of Justice, Department of Defense, expensive investigations, and Bernie Sanders, who even though he's opposed to her thinks of it as a minor distraction that gets in the way of talk on the issues.

You really aren't setting up your accusation of 'no matter what' very well.

Trump? Says he'll try and deport 11 million people and build a wall. The former of which is both horrible, and will cause a significant economic collapse in the areas affected.

Hillary? Had an insufficiently secure server, which is shut down, won't happen again. No new damning information has come out since this whole thing started, just every few weeks people pull it out again and act like there's something new when, surprise surprise, there never is.

So yea, I'm with Bernie on this one. Enough with the e-mails, the highest authorities on the subject and even her main political rival don't particularly care or think it's a big deal.

Simply repeating the same minor accusations a dozen times doesn't mean someone lacks limits, just that said limits have to be more than the same-ol same-ol. And if all it takes for you to say that someone will defend Hillary from everything is that they'll defend Hillary from something, that doesn't exactly give me a good view of your sense of proportion.

Heck, it really makes getting the conservative opinion on things boring. "Lesse, check again, what's the conservative buzz on Hillary, any new strategies or angles of attack against her ....? Nope, the exact same scandals which most people don't care about and likewise think is mined dry."

Do you actually think this server thing is on the level of the largest, most unforgivable scandals ever? Really?

Really Really?

If you actually think that, rather than just saying that because you find it hard to believe someone would defend Hillary on anything at all, I'd be surprised.

Originally posted by snowdragon
See, you are cute in the fact that you obviously have never worked in any capacity regarding clearances or for the govt.

Opinions like this put you pretty much rank in file with followers of trump who don't care either except you do that for hillary.

It is what it is Patraeus broke the law and was punished, honestly his punishment was super light but comparing Hillary to his misdeeds is neither here nor there.

Also it clearly doesn't matter to you at all, you are one of her supporters that will cling to her no matter what. That's fine but like I said you should probably think twice about making fun of trumpsters when you are stuck on hillary🙂

#gotther

#owned

I do agree that, if she truly did nothing wrong or illegal, yes it should be enough with the emails.

Originally posted by Surtur
Plus if Tim Allen is irrelevant then it means pretty much 95% of the people in this country would DEFINITELY be irrelevant. I mean if a rich celebrity with a very popular tv show is irrelevant, how relevant can the average joe working an average job making average pay be? Those same irrelevant people are the ones Hilary will need votes from if she wants a shot at the White House.

If you want to talk about irrelevant people from Home Imrpovement then you could bring up the dude who played the youngest son or the guy who played Al Borland. Or frankly not just the youngest son, but all of the sons Tim had on the show are more or less irrelevant now. Though for the guy who played Randy that is by choice.

Originally posted by Surtur
I'm sorry but no..he's not irrelevant. A widely panned tv series doesn't change the fact it's been on the air for 5 seasons, and still going strong. If it's being panned yet lasting for 100 episodes it means a decent chunk of people have to be watching, that is sort of how these things work. Irrelevant and "doing great work" are not necessarily the same thing.

You can talk about the ratings, but you do know that a show heavily praised by critics..has gotten way way less ratings then this show, right? The show I'm talking about is Mad Men. The ratings were enough for it to make it to 100 episodes.

So nope, not irrelevant. Is he making the best shit on tv? Nope. He's relevant, he's a known celebrity on a show that in it's latest season has averaged 6 million+ viewers. He could be Tim Allen star of a current tv show..or he could be Tim Allen the guy who works at the grocery store. Doesn't make what he said any less true. So lets end the silly discussion about relevancy.

Can't say this better myself.

More ownage.

Originally posted by Q99
Look, I'm also going by what I see the experts saying. The DOJ says they don't care and think there's nothing important on the serves either, and they've seen it.

Source?

And for this conversation also I have worked in govt facilities and had to get badged/background checked etc and I do know that if anyone else had done remotely what Hillary had done they would be in jail.

Hell in certain facilities don't keep with security measures you'll have a team down your throat and debriefing and perhaps expelled perm from facilities. Heaven forbid if you took a document from an area that is secure and that document just has your name on it, you are in serious trouble.

So yea, I'm with Bernie on this one. Enough with the e-mails, the highest authorities on the subject and even her main political rival don't particularly care or think it's a big deal.

Thats not what Bernie said, he said in a debate that the people didn't want to hear a debate on the issue. Apparently the FBI thinks otherwise so there we have it.

Notice how the highest authoritys "don't care"

I guess the FBI is not a high authority and their investigation, does not matter.

SO what she is saying is the FBI under the Obama administration < Hilary Clinton.

Originally posted by Robtard
If you like cool Tim Allen facts, here's a doozie: On October 2, 1978, Tim Allen was arrested in the Kalamazoo-Battle Creek International Airport for possession of over 650 grams (1.4 lb) of cocaine. He subsequently pleaded guilty to drug trafficking, and *provided the names of other dealers in exchange for a sentence of three to seven years, instead of possible life imprisonment. He was paroled on June 12, 1981 after serving 2 years and 4 months in the Federal Correctional Institution in Sandstone, Minnesota.

*Turning states evidence is the legal term for being a rat =O

Hey. Your Fav American Prez is a Coke Head. And he still smokes cigarettes, and lies about it. Tim Allen Fessed up to his crime and made a better person of himself. With out Screwing over the American People in the process.
SO Tim Allen>Barack Obama.

So Rob is taking pot shots at drug allegations in 1978 for coke, now, Obama admitting he did coke with his gay buddies at the bath houses in Chicago is ok though.

Remember. We can't judge Democrats on PAST Actions.

Republicans Yes. Democrats NO!

Remember that.

Its called HYPOCRISY!

Originally posted by Surtur
I'm sorry but no..he's not irrelevant. A widely panned tv series doesn't change the fact it's been on the air for 5 seasons, and still going strong. If it's being panned yet lasting for 100 episodes it means a decent chunk of people have to be watching, that is sort of how these things work. Irrelevant and "doing great work" are not necessarily the same thing.

You can talk about the ratings, but you do know that a show heavily praised by critics..has gotten way way less ratings then this show, right? The show I'm talking about is Mad Men. The ratings were enough for it to make it to 100 episodes.

So nope, not irrelevant. Is he making the best shit on tv? Nope. He's relevant, he's a known celebrity on a show that in it's latest season has averaged 6 million+ viewers. He could be Tim Allen star of a current tv show..or he could be Tim Allen the guy who works at the grocery store. Doesn't make what he said any less true. So lets end the silly discussion about relevancy.

The Last Man Standing does well enough to continue because its lead in is Shark Tank, which is the highest-rated program on Friday evenings.

The ratings of Mad Men are a false equivalency, because Mad Men is a TV-MA rated cable program, and The Last Man Standing is a TV-PG rated network program.

PG and network programs have much broader audiences than MA and cable programs.

At the end of the day, The Last Man Standing is rated #60 on Friday nights, its 100th and last episode airs this week, and it has not been renewed for another season.

It is mediocre critically and commercially, and failed to achieve the success of Home Improvement, which is the last thing Tim Allen did that anyone cared about.

So yes, he is irrelevant.

He is more relevant then you, Adam.

Originally posted by Flyattractor
[b]Remember. We can't judge Democrats on PAST Actions.

Republicans Yes. Democrats NO!

Remember that.

Its called HYPOCRISY! [/B]


👆

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
So Rob is taking pot shots at drug allegations in 1978 for coke, now, Obama admitting he did coke with his gay buddies at the bath houses in Chicago is ok though.

I was just posting a "cool" Tim Allen fact, continuing what someone else started. I didn't judge him for being a drug dealer and then rolling over on his buddies like what is known as being a "dirty rat". Are you confusing this with my comment about Allen's lack of humor and being irrelevant?

When have I commented on Obama's alleged coke-filled gay flings? I don't care about that, it's Obama's past private life; it's not something that interest me, maybe you; not me, buddy.

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
The Last Man Standing does well enough to continue because its lead in is Shark Tank, which is the highest-rated program on Friday evenings.

The ratings of Mad Men are a false equivalency, because Mad Men is a TV-MA rated cable program, and The Last Man Standing is a TV-PG rated network program.

PG and network programs have much broader audiences than MA and cable programs.

At the end of the day, The Last Man Standing is rated #60 on Friday nights, its 100th and last episode airs this week, and it has not been renewed for another season.

It is mediocre critically and commercially, and failed to achieve the success of Home Improvement, which is the last thing Tim Allen did that anyone cared about.

So yes, he is irrelevant.

The point is that it is still a show that has lasted 100 episodes. He's not the most relevant celebrity, but he's really not irrelevant. It's silly to think so. You don't have to have a #1 tv show to be relevant.

Also it hasn't been renewed yet because it's only February. A lot of times a network will wait until the end of a season to decide. If you look it up the previous season did not have the show renewed until May. So we can scratch that as a sign of anything.

You are mistaking relevant for meaning "#1 show". If you're on a weekly sitcom that has lasted at least 100 episodes..you're relevant as far as tv stars go.

Stop saying Home Improvement was the last thing people cared about..if that were true then this show wouldn't of lasted 5 seasons. It just sounds ridiculous to say that. If you don't care for it fine, but don't make general statements like that which just are blatantly not true. If the show lasted only 12 episodes then what you are saying would make a lot more sense. This entire discussion gets sillier the more it persists.

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
He is more relevant then you, Adam.

Truth hurts. If you say he is not relevant, then where are you on the relevant list?

Originally posted by Robtard
I was just posting a "cool" Tim Allen fact, continuing what someone else started. I didn't judge him for being a drug dealer and then rolling over on his buddies like what is known as being a "dirty rat". Are you confusing this with my comment about Allen's lack of humor and being irrelevant?

When have I commented on Obama's alleged coke-filled gay flings? I don't care about that, it's Obama's past private life; it's not something that interest me, maybe you; not me, buddy.

So you don't care about his gay bath house days and doing lines of coke..

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
So you don't care about his gay bath house days and doing lines of coke..

Thought I made it clear, someone else's gay sex flings don't interest me, feel free to ponder on them all you like, no judgments here. If (and it's a big IF) Obama had gay sex and did cocaine in his younger days prior to being President, I don't care; it's not something that affects his ability to lead now.

Just like I didn't judge GW Bush's use of cocaine back in his Yale days. The alleged frat-house-date-rapes though, those were concerning.

Speaking on past bad behavior, Trump allegedly raping his ex-wife is also of concern. Shows a pattern of violence and lack of empathy for fellow humans. Do wonder if it's true.

Glad you agree Tim is more relevant then you originally spoke.