Revan vs Kylo Ren

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Revan vs Kylo Ren

Kylo thinks he has located Rey & Luke, but instead he has run into Revan. Who wins this fight? No rules. Battlefield is Mos Eisly Starport.

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What the **** is this shit?

You got to be kidding me?

Yeah, Revan vs 10 Kylo Rens would be a closer fight.

"Closer" is a relative term; he'd just get slaughtered SLIGHTLY less

Re: Revan vs Kylo Ren

Originally posted by Darth Truculent
Kylo thinks he has located Rey & Luke, but instead he has run into Revan. Who wins this fight? No rules. Battlefield is Mos Eisly Starport.

Why is Altair your profile picture if your name is Darth Trucelent?

Kylo Ren massacres. He did something with his hands in the novel.
Best feat ever, DE Sidious level easily!

wtf
you actually defeated carthage

^

What if this was, like, totally amnesiac Revan, at the *very* start of KotoR... ? Maybe....?

I'm trying to be generous here ^^

Oh then he'd lose. He only knew how to handle a blaster and a vibroblade; not to mention only had access to those and had no knowledge of how to use the Force

Originally posted by Tondemonai
Oh then he'd lose. He only knew how to handle a blaster and a vibroblade; not to mention only had access to those and had no knowledge of how to use the Force
Considering Kylo Ren was iniured by a stormtrooper who had never used a melee weapon before, and the person Finn fought beat him, we can assume that Revan still wins.

Plus, even back then, Revan was an amazing soldier, and was able to defeat scores of creatures, and men.

Bendak Starkiller FTW.

True, but that was when he was severely injured by a Bowcaster blast. We can only speculate his skills prior to that since we never saw them.

Originally posted by Tondemonai
True, but that was when he was severely injured by a Bowcaster blast. We can only speculate his skills prior to that since we never saw them.
He was not "severely injured". He got shot in the Shoulder if I remember correctly.

He was good enough to still fight.

The blaster bolt was a minor inconvenience at best.

It still doesn't change the fact that even Endar Spire Revan would beat Finn.

End of Taris Revan beats Kylo Ren.

Originally posted by Jmanghan
Considering Kylo Ren was iniured by a stormtrooper who had never used a melee weapon before, and the person Finn fought beat him, we can assume that Revan still wins.

Plus, even back then, Revan was an amazing soldier, and was able to defeat scores of creatures, and men.

Bendak Starkiller FTW.


Funny thing actually, Finn was trained in melee combat, had prior experience wielding that lightsaber, and consistently scored in the top 1% in his training in all areas, and Kylo was toying with him most of the time.

Originally posted by Jmanghan
He was not "severely injured". He got shot in the Shoulder if I remember correctly.

He was good enough to still fight.

The blaster bolt was a minor inconvenience at best.


He got shot in the gut with a bowcaster. Bowcaster shots are much more powerful than blasterbolts. Chewie's bowcaster was sending stormtroopers flying whenever it shot them. And clearly it did impact Kylo since he was bleeding everywhere. There was a puddle of blood at his feet even after he ventured quite a bit away from where he got shot.

Originally posted by Jmanghan
It still doesn't change the fact that even Endar Spire Revan would beat Finn.

So would an uninjured Kylo, and an injured Kylo... and Kylo could've oneshotted him with the Force.

Originally posted by Jmanghan
End of Taris Revan beats Kylo Ren.

With what defense against Kylo's abilities?

Originally posted by Emperordmb
Funny thing actually, Finn was trained in melee combat, had prior experience wielding that lightsaber, and consistently scored in the top 1% in his training in all areas, and Kylo was toying with him most of the time.

He got shot in the gut with a bowcaster. Bowcaster shots are much more powerful than blasterbolts. Chewie's bowcaster was sending stormtroopers flying whenever it shot them. And clearly it did impact Kylo since he was bleeding everywhere. There was a puddle of blood at his feet even after he ventured quite a bit away from where he got shot.

So would an uninjured Kylo, and an injured Kylo... and Kylo could've oneshotted him with the Force.

With what defense against Kylo's abilities?

Being injured has no effect on force powers.

When was it ever stated that Finn was trained in Melee combat???

Kylo was fighting for his life, and you could see that clearly in the fight.

Thats like saying that Vader was toying with Luke in ESB when Luke was his strongest opponent up to that point (according to Vader).

Originally posted by Jmanghan
Being injured has no effect on force powers.

When was it ever stated that Finn was trained in Melee combat???

Kylo was fighting for his life, and you could see that clearly in the fight.

Thats like saying that Vader was toying with Luke in ESB when Luke was his strongest opponent up to that point (according to Vader).

Lol, being injured means you are chugging way more energy into being able to stand the F up.

You need to read more books.

Kylo stomped Finn in their duel and then got taken aback by Rey being a prodigal Force user. Kylo had orders to bring her in alive from Snoke, Rey gets a moment of focus and Invisible Hand's him.

Originally posted by AncientPower
Lol, being injured means you are chugging way more energy into being able to stand the F up.

You need to read more books.

Kylo stomped Finn in their duel and then got taken aback by Rey being a prodigal Force user. Kylo had orders to bring her in alive from Snoke, Rey gets a moment of focus and Invisible Hand's him.

Stomping him means he didn't get a worthwhile hit on him, which he did.

Kylo wasn't outclassing Finn all that much in their fight.

Originally posted by Jmanghan
Being injured has no effect on force powers.

The pain of the injury was disrupting his focus ("The pain of Ren’s wound clouded his concentration." Source: TFA novel) and the emotional turmoil of killing his father had him weakened (“Stunned by his own action, Kylo Ren fell to his knees. Following through on the act ought to have made him stronger, a part of him believed. Instead, he found himself weakened.” Source: TFA novel). Despite this, Kylo ragdolled Rey pretty damn easily at the beginning of that fight, so he really could've done the same against Finn whenever he wanted. Plus uninjured he's frozen several people in place before without them being able to move at all.

Also, anything he does physically is definitely going to be hampered by that injury.

More quotes from the TFA novelization that confirm his hindrance:
"From the looks of it, he was wounded badly.”

"He was struggling also, against her newly discovered ability, as well as the wound inflicted by Chewbacca’s bowcaster.”

“Amid the rising bedlam and confusion, Kylo Ren struggled to stand.”

Originally posted by Jmanghan
When was it ever stated that Finn was trained in Melee combat???

"They began drills, basic moves-stance, attack, parry-and then repeated, over and over again, until FN-2187 could feel perspiration running down his back inside the bodysuit he wore beneath his armor. When they'd finished, his arms ached from the effort of maintaining the mace and shield, but there was a sense of pleasure, too, the delight of learning something new and learning it quickly and well."-Before the Awakening

Originally posted by Jmanghan
Kylo was fighting for his life, and you could see that clearly in the fight.

Thats like saying that Vader was toying with Luke in ESB when Luke was his strongest opponent up to that point (according to Vader).


"Taking a step back, Ren reconsidered his opponent. When he closed the distance between them anew, it was with a purpose that had been previously lacking. Expecting an execution, he had found a contest. Now he had been touched. It was time for play to end."-TFA novelization

"Finn parried weakly, then disengaged and stabbed. His blade sheared Ren’s arm. It didn’t do much more than sizzle his opponent’s skin. But Ren backpedalled, reassessing Finn. Holding the blue blade in front of him, Finn stared at Kylo Ren, ready for anything. But he was not ready for the fury of the attack Ren launched at him. It was if the previous back and forth had been child’s play."-TFA novelization

Also if you actually watch the fight, Kylo has Finn on the ground at one point near the beginning and starts punching himself while he lets Finn get back to his feet rather than finishing him off, and he stomps him pretty quickly as soon as Finn's blade makes contact.