Bane/Batman (Nolan)vs. John Wick/Daredevil (Netflix)

Bane gets a billy club tossed into his temple.

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Kingpin was able to hurt DD and fight pretty evenly with him. Bane is stronger and faster plus much more skilled than Fisk is. Bane can beat DD. This fight is Team 1s to win.

But who won that fight? And who was injured heavily starting out? Daredevil.

And DD has fought people far faster, far more skilled, and just as strong as Bane. He's nothing Matt hasn't seen before. Slower than Nobu, less skilled than Nobu or Stick, probably in the same strength range as Kingpin.

Batman kills Wick instantly.

Originally posted by KingD19
But who won that fight? And who was injured heavily starting out? Daredevil.

And DD has fought people far faster, far more skilled, and just as strong as Bane. He's nothing Matt hasn't seen before. Slower than Nobu, less skilled than Nobu or Stick, probably in the same strength range as Kingpin.

He is also ignoring the fact that Kingpin does not have a very exploitable mask weakness.

And just have to ask, what has Batman done to suggest he can kill Wick "instantly" in pure h2h? Does he have any feats of instantly killing any non-fodder in any films using just H2H?

Batman has never used a gun and can beat anyone in H2H.

Wick relies on his gun.

Wick has never faced anyone like Batman.

Batman always wins.

Batman can beat "anyone" in h2h? Nolan Batman?

Also, Wick prefers his guns but we have seen he can use h2h if really needed. And Batman has never faced someone with Wick's feats either, so that doesn't say much. And none of that is evidence that Batman can instantly kill Wick using pure h2h.

I could list dozens of people that would beat Baleman.

Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
Batman can beat "anyone" in h2h? Nolan Batman?

Also, Wick prefers his guns but we have seen he can use h2h if really needed. And Batman has never faced someone with Wick's feats either, so that doesn't say much. And none of that is evidence that Batman can instantly kill Wick using pure h2h.

Insta kill was a joke. His H2H is stronger then Wicks, thats all I'm saying. He will beat Wick based on taking down tougher opponents.

Well, that's a given. Despite the views of some posters, Baleman is not that useless in H2H. So either he or Bane would drop Wick at some point IMO. But all Wick needs to do is last for a while, and we have seen that he has some decent damage soak. He also has the kevlar vest which, while not specifically designed for this, will still absorb some of the impact of body shots. The very real threat to team 1 is Matt, who is faster, more agile and more skilled than either Bats or Bane, and whose senses will allow him to pick up on any weaknesses they have (like Bane's respiratory issues or Bruce's messed up joints). He's been able to detect things like broken bones by hearing how they shift inside a person (so he could probably pick up the fact that most of Bruce's leg cartilage etc. is shot to shit when he moves), tell when someone is about to speak by noticing changes in their breathing pattern, detect people from multiple floors away through smell etc. so his senses give him a ton of extra info. Hell, he can even detect the exact contents of someone's last meal by smelling them, even if they ate a while ago.