RoF Freeza Gauntlet

Originally posted by carver9
We are done. No explanation given on why Goku and Beerus felt the blunt of this whereas the humans below and the Kais didn't budge except once and that was minor. Lets move on.

Originally posted by carver9
LOL... the shockwaves did become more powerful as it went across the universe, that still doesn't take away from the center, ya know, the starting point of the shockwaves being the most destructive. The showing proves this. Dont know how much clearer this can get for anyone.

Lol, are you effing kidding me? none

Again:

Originally posted by Galan007
Elder Kaioshin: "It seems that the destructive power increases the further removed it gets from the generation point. We're done for...The universe will be destroyed. If those two clash a few more times, then people, planets, us gods, even Beerus-sama and Goku...Everything will be totally destroyed. This universe will become a vacuum, devoid of anything."

And just in case you're not clear: this is the "generation point":

Please don't act like a moron.

But yeah, we can move on if you'd like. 🙂

I think it's pretty obvious that Carver is (shabbily) referring to the impact that creates the universe-breaking vergences, not the origin point of the expanding vergences themselves.

Originally posted by NewGuy01
I think it's pretty obvious that Carver is (shabbily) referring to the impact that creates the universe-breaking vergences, not the origin point of the expanding vergences themselves.

Clapping

Is that what you were doing or is another one of your whoops I did it again moments?

Do you disagree with what I posted?

Wasn't Goku getting hammered back by the shockwave at one point in time or am I remembering wrong?

Originally posted by One Big Mob
Wasn't Goku getting hammered back by the shockwave at one point in time or am I remembering wrong?

I provided a clip and yes, the shockwave's was slinging both Beerus and Goku but it did nothing at all to the Kais who were on the other side of the Universe.

They flew back once when they collided with their fists... That began the universal destruction.. They next hit it shows up close after they connect has the same explosion light and neither are flung back... Solo. Also the kai are in different dimension not the other side of the universe. You don't die and end up on the other side of the universe

Originally posted by Kento
They flew back once when they collided with their fists... That began the universal destruction.. They next hit it shows up close after they connect has the same explosion light and neither are flung back... Solo. Also the kai are in different dimension not the other side of the universe. You don't die and end up on the other side of the universe

The Kais said that if the hits continued, they would've died as well. Also, the humans below Goku and Beerus did not budge from the same impact that threw Beerus and Goku. They were slung more than once though. Let me look at the episode again.

Originally posted by carver9
The Kais said that if the hits continued, they would've died as well. Also, the humans below Goku and Beerus did not budge from the same impact that threw Beerus and Goku. They were slung more than once though. Let me look at the episode again.

There are a lot of far away shots after they punch but the next time it shows them for a extended period right before Goku plot devices it to stop they aren't thrown back.

Originally posted by Kento
Yes, they would have destroyed more than the universe though. More like the whole fabric of reality in universe 7. Because the gods are in the land of the dead. Not a place you can fly a ship too.

There are a lot of far away shots after they punch but the next time it shows them for a extended period right before Goku plot devices it to stop they aren't thrown back.

Champa flew to the Kais planet though and the land of the dead? When did the Kai planet become part of heaven and hell?

The Shockwaves would've been more devastating when it reached the Kais. Which again proves that Goku and Beerus felt more of the attack. Hell, both of them were pouting and screaming after each blow.

Uh. Snake way... Ringing any bells?

Originally posted by ares834
Uh. Snake way... Ringing any bells?

I'm talking about Supreme Kai and Old Kai planet.

Oh. My bad.

Originally posted by carver9
Champa flew to the Kais planet though and the land of the dead? When did the Kai planet become part of heaven and hell?

The Shockwaves would've been more devastating when it reached the Kais. Which again proves that Goku and Beerus felt more of the attack. Hell, both of them were pouting and screaming after each blow.

Also whis and vado traverse universe 6 & 7. And Beerus and Whis went to king Kais planet. .. So they can travel anywhere.

wondering, we all agree Red>>>Blue?

Originally posted by Henry_Pym
wondering, we all agree Red>>>Blue?

I don't think it's correct to compare them as directly as one would compare two ordinary Super Saiyan forms.

SSGSS is a Super Saiyan transformation that possesses the godly power of SSG, but it is not the same as SSG. SSG is distinctly different; unlike SSGSS it can't be maintained or used without a ritual, but it boasts qualities like high-speed regeneration, space-breathing, and the fact that it's power increases as it's pushed to it's limits. Again, SSGSS is a Super Saiyan transformation that possesses the godly power of Goku's SSG without a time limit, but it lacks some of the transformation's unique qualities and instead operates as a normal Super Saiyan form.

As for which is superior, IMO it boils down to this: SSGSS Goku possesses the same power that SSG Goku wielded against Beerus, but without a time limit or need for a ritual. So in that sense, he's stronger now than he was before. However, SSG is the stronger transformation because of it's unique qualities, most notably it's more vast potential.

Originally posted by Galan007

Top=new animation.
Bottom=old animation.

...Tough call. mmm

What the hell? Are there two versions of the show?

Originally posted by Kento
Since Goku couldn't stay in land of the living anymore yet went to Kaioshin planet. And also when he went back to the afterlife he felt Gohan because he was in the afterlife realm.

Also whis and vado traverse universe 6 & 7. And Beerus and Whis went to king Kais planet. .. So they can travel anywhere.

But Vegeta was able to stay in the land of the living as long as he wanted. There's nothing pointing to the Kais planet being the land of the dead. Nothing.