Originally posted by quanchi112
His body didn't have a physical mass and was an energy form. It didn't do anything significant. You are exaggerating a feat which had no bearing on Darkseid.
Yeah, no.
Your argument makes it sound like he was some incorporeal and intangible being of light or something, which is false.
He had mass. Energy has mass anyway. A Sun has mass. Gas has mass.
Darkseid was condensed enough to be able to stand and walk on solid land as he normally does. His body casting a shadow, the same way it normally does. And attacks from the Source bounced off him. Orion threw a punch at one point and it actually connected and it didn't pass through.
Darkseid's form shattered when Superman ran through him. That's not how a form with 'no mass', or pure energy reacts. On the other hand, even if he was some kind of floating non-solid (like say, something with the consistency of wax in a lava lamp), then there simply would have been a hole made through him and the hole would have closed.
Instead Darkseid got shattered, and though he reformed, he felt the initial blow.
Originally posted by CosmicCometIt wasn't a solid mass like his normal body it was an energy form which wasn't hurt at all. Superman posed no threat whatsoever and Darkseid simply reformed. The source defeated him. Superman posed no threat. He flew right threw him because he can fly very fast but in the end he was simply a distraction.
Yeah, no.Your argument makes it sound like he was some incorporeal and intangible being of light or something, which is false.
He had mass. Energy has mass anyway. A Sun has mass. Gas has mass.
Darkseid was condensed enough to be able to stand and walk on solid land as he normally does. His body casting a shadow, the same way it normally does. And attacks from the Source bounced off him. Orion threw a punch at one point and it actually connected and it didn't pass through.
Darkseid's form shattered when Superman ran through him. That's not how a form with 'no mass', or pure energy reacts. On the other hand, even if he was some kind of floating non-solid (like say, something with the consistency of wax in a lava lamp), then there simply would have been a hole made through him and the hole would have closed.
Instead Darkseid got shattered.
Originally posted by CosmicCometHis body didn't have the same mass as his physical body. That's a fact. Darkseid isn't a being of energy mass on average. Superman posed no threat to him. That's stated and obvious in the comic. None of this pertains to OWAW Superman anyways.
You just repeated the exact thing that I debunked.
His body had mass and tangible form, via the on-panel proof I presented. You repeating your baseless theory is just an exercise in circular argument.
Energy has mass anyway.
Superman's total threat to him is irrelevant to the discussion of the feat.
Superman had the strength to shatter him, even when attacks before did not.
Even if he was pure energy, he shattered, just like a GL construct does when broken, and he felt the attack.
Originally posted by CosmicCometI said it doesn't have the same mass as his physical body. If you feel it does then prove it.
His body had mass and tangible form, via the on-panel proof I presented. You repeating your baseless theory is just an exercise in circular argument.Energy has mass anyway.
Superman's total threat to him is irrelevant to the discussion of the feat.
Superman had the strength to shatter him, even when attacks before did not.
Even if he was pure energy, he shattered, just like a GL construct does when broken, and he felt the attack.
Speed. If a bullet pierces a human by being fired at a fast rate does it possess the strength if it isn't moving at that rate. Superman flew fast into him. Using his speed. You want to discount speed. This is OWAW Superman so it's irrelevant.
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Originally posted by PhilDunno if this has been mentioned(I haven't really kept up with this thread), but Superman performed a similar feat against Emperor Joker as well:
👆Destroying Darkseid's physical form - something that resisted the Source's attacks, is not something impressive because it's Superman.
If it had been Surfer, this would have been the greatest feat ever.
I can only imagine how jealous power cosmic masturbators are of Superman's feats.
Originally posted by CosmicComet
His body had mass and tangible form, via the on-panel proof I presented. You repeating your baseless theory is just an exercise in circular argument.Energy has mass anyway.
Superman's total threat to him is irrelevant to the discussion of the feat.
Superman had the strength to shatter him, even when attacks before did not.
Even if he was pure energy, he shattered, just like a GL construct does when broken, and he felt the attack.
Don't bother arguing with her. She's just a chinless troll.
Originally posted by Galan007Quasar blew up Thanos' head when he had the IG as well.
Dunno if this has been mentioned(I haven't really kept up with this thread), but Superman performed a similar feat against Emperor Joker as well:
http://i.imgur.com/UasSSS8.jpg
I remember someone arguing he could disintegrate Normos because of it...
Originally posted by Galan007
Dunno if this has been mentioned(I haven't really kept up with this thread), but Superman performed a similar feat against Emperor Joker as well:
http://i.imgur.com/UasSSS8.jpg
Yep!! Phil was replying to me and I was replying to One-Punch. Punch brought that up as well as Soulfire Darkseid. I think the argument that "they reformed so it didn't do shit" is retarded in general, but especially bad with Darkseid, considering The Source merged back with the Anti-Life Entity didn't do anything remotely close.
Originally posted by Delta1938The Source defeated Darkseid despite his one sided prep. Darkseid didn't to have to prep for Superman because he was nothing more than a nuisance. Context. It always shines to light the details here.
Yep!! Phil was replying to me and I was replying to One-Punch. Punch brought that up as well as Soulfire Darkseid. I think the argument that "they reformed so it didn't do shit" is retarded in general, but especially bad with Darkseid, considering The Source merged back with the Anti-Life Entity didn't do anything remotely close.
Originally posted by quanchi112
I said it doesn't have the same mass as his physical body. If you feel it does then prove it.
Oh, I realize you said that. That's kinda what I've been addressing. When will you get around to actually proving it is my wonder.
Because the evidence, leans my way. 🙂
Speed. If a bullet pierces a human by being fired at a fast rate does it possess the strength if it isn't moving at that rate. Superman flew fast into him. Using his speed. You want to discount speed. This is OWAW Superman so it's irrelevant.🙂
Superman was close by, the momentum he generated was minimal compared to what he could.
Nice to know that you are passively admitting the 'no mass' argument has become a non-point for you though. Seeing as GL constructs *are* pure energy and it still takes strength to shatter them.
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Oh, and Superman's arms were kept perfectly straight while he did so. If he didn't have the strength to follow through that force, his arms would have bent inward.
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