Superman in OWAW with all the upgrades was way above skyfather level. He beat a few multiversal abstracts in consecutive stories in this period, and was at the height of his power and upgraded.
Even in the resolution of the story, he suggested he wouldn't need the Entropy Aegis' help against the Linear Men and the Quintessence if they decided to fight him. A group of time travelers and manipulators and 5 skyfather + beings.
Odin meanwhile, is below Galactus these days, who at the height of his anger showed the ability to wipe out 3 star systems.
Which is damn impressive, but nothing for a guy that's Sundipped, and powered up by the embodiment of the multiverse and shit.
Gtfoh.
Originally posted by Juntai
Superman in OWAW with all the upgrades was way above skyfather level. He beat a few multiversal abstracts in consecutive stories in this period, and was at the height of his power and upgraded.Even in the resolution of the story, he suggested he wouldn't need the Entropy Aegis' help against the Linear Men and the Quintessence if they decided to fight him. A group of time travelers and manipulators and 5 skyfather + beings.
Odin meanwhile, is below Galactus these days, who at the height of his anger showed the ability to wipe out 3 star systems.
Which is damn impressive, but nothing for a guy that's Sundipped, and powered up by the embodiment of the multiverse and shit.
Gtfoh.
Clearly you didnt read the OP (or to be more precise, page 1 of this thread); shame on you for posting without being knowledgeable of the subject matter... 👇
Anyway, Superman is just Sundipped here; no Strange Visitor amp...
Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Clearly you didnt read the OP (or to be more precise, page 1 of this thread); shame on you for posting without being knowledgeable of the subject matter... 👇Anyway, Superman is just Sundipped here; no Strange Visitor amp...
I think he is saying regular sun dipped Superman was operating at abstract levels which is....
Originally posted by Juntai
Superman in OWAW with all the upgrades was way above skyfather level. He beat a few multiversal abstracts in consecutive stories in this period, and was at the height of his power and upgraded.Even in the resolution of the story, he suggested he wouldn't need the Entropy Aegis' help against the Linear Men and the Quintessence if they decided to fight him. A group of time travelers and manipulators and 5 skyfather + beings.
Odin meanwhile, is below Galactus these days, who at the height of his anger showed the ability to wipe out 3 star systems.
Which is damn impressive, but nothing for a guy that's Sundipped, and powered up by the embodiment of the multiverse and shit.
Gtfoh.
Were you always this mad?
Or did you go off your rocker during your absence from KMC?
Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Oh not at all...My interpretation of Warlock and the Infinity Watch #25 was that Odin was steadily ramping up the intensity of his attacks as the fight against Thanos went on (he started off with a relatively weak attack and steadily turned up the juice after that); it seemed to me that if he needed to start amping to beat Thanos he would have...
In a hypothetical against Sundipped Superman, I believe Odin would do the exact same thing...
So no, no difference in fighting style whatsoever...
So, you're arguing based on your interpretation, and not exactly what he did. But your argument does indicate you think Superman out-performs Thanos, the entire point of the thread, so that's cool.
Anyways, as for Superman himself? Well, since the topic is of when he was Sun-Dipped, all amped and mental blocks off it seemed, I think it's fair to bring-out his high-end feats. Like when he faced Dominus.
First, a bit of establishing Dominus. Here, we see he created a multiverse for Superman, 4 different realities that he put Superman through simultaneously.
http://s1199.photobucket.com/user/Delta1938/library/Comparing/Villains/Dominus/MultiReality
Is Odin on that level? Well no, from what I've heard. Well below that from what I've heard. But we can see what he's got to match. Being a multiversal reality manipulator is still quite up there. And yes, Dominus' power was magick.
http://s1199.photobucket.com/user/Delta1938/library/Comparing/Villains/Dominus/Origin
So, how did Superman take his energy blasts? Pretty well considering Dominus' level of power.
Blasted to Earth, still conscious after the blast, gets up shortly after the impact.
http://s1199.photobucket.com/user/Delta1938/library/Durability/EnergyBlasts/Uber/Dominus/Dominus1
Takes several blasts before Dominus starts reality warping, still conscious.
http://s1199.photobucket.com/user/Delta1938/library/Durability/EnergyBlasts/Uber/Dominus/Dominus2
In Dominus' realm, takes a blast from Dominus talking about killing Superman in hopes of luring Kismet, Superman's still conscious, puts-up a bit of a fight, then enrages Dominus and takes another blast. May or may not have been unconscious from the second, we don't see what happens for a while(shows Waverider bringing Kismet to safety, then we know Dominus searched Earth off-panel) until Superman's imprisoned.
http://s1199.photobucket.com/user/Delta1938/library/Durability/EnergyBlasts/Uber/Dominus/Dominus3
Takes a blast, fights the Superman Robots(which kept the JLA at bay).
http://s1199.photobucket.com/user/Delta1938/library/Durability/EnergyBlasts/Uber/Dominus/Dominus4
First, Superman's Fortress Of Solitude gets hit by Luthor's tower, quite hard. And all the synthetic Kryptonite in it is quite intense. How intense? It's deadly for Martian Manhunter and Wonder Woman for about an hour according to Oracle, AFTER they already started dropping. And, we later find-out it hit so hard, coupled with Dominus' energy, it caused the Fortress Of Solitude to become a "ghost." Unquantifiable sure, and Superman's KOed, but shows he's already taken some damage and is in intense Kryptonite radiation.
http://s1199.photobucket.com/user/Delta1938/library/Durability/ImmenseForce/Explosions/GhostFortress
Shortly after? Takes a blast from Dominus. Is down, but not out. And remember, that synthetic K radiation so intense it's deadly to two Top-Tiers that don't have a weakness to it. And he couldn't survive it indefinitely, had to go into his Kryptonian Warsuit, but still DAYUM. NOTE: There's a couple repeat scans from the previous album.
http://s1199.photobucket.com/user/Delta1938/library/Durability/EnergyBlasts/Uber/Dominus/Dominus5
Again, takes a blast from Dominus.
http://s1199.photobucket.com/user/Delta1938/library/Durability/EnergyBlasts/Uber/Dominus/Dominus6
And Superman's heat vision? It matched Dominus' blast.
Although inconclusive, and she wasn't in the best shape, was implied capable of killing Kismet(note Dominus says Superman WOULDN'T kill her, not that he couldn't). He said it twice(the Dominus3 album shows it).
And he destroyed Dominus' body made-up of "near-infinite" souls, as weird and awesome a feat that is.
http://s1199.photobucket.com/user/Delta1938/library/HeatVision/Fights/DominusBody
As for Superman with the Sun-Dip? We saw how much of an increase he got when like that, as shown earlier.
And we saw far less of a Sun-Dip had Superman powerful enough to kill Vera Black with the Worlogog, as she saw with its precognition(Batman's statement would just corroborate writer intent).
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?postid=15604378#post1560437
Yeah, multiversal reality manipulator whose powers are magick? And this is before his training under Mongul II? Yeah, I'm thinking Superman Sun-Dipped like OWAW can definitely take Odin's blasts, and his heat vision can at the least hurt Odin. Considering all of Superman's feats and showings of strength under normal circumstances, I'm not seeing why Superman in this state can't put a hurting on Odin.
But even for those who think Odin wins, no doubt Superman greatly out-performs Thanos.
Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
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Not sure why you're giving quanny's retardation a thumbs-up. Not only are those arguments stupid, but irrelevant to the topic at hand, as you said--
Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Yes, he's Sundipped...
Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Clearly you didnt read the OP (or to be more precise, page 1 of this thread); shame on you for posting without being knowledgeable of the subject matter... 👇Anyway, Superman is just Sundipped here; no Strange Visitor amp...
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Wait, you thumb-up quanny's retarded, irrelevant argument and don't correct her on the topic being Superman Sun-Dipped, but then thumb down and criticize Juntai for not reading the first page?
hmmm
Originally posted by Juntai
Superman in OWAW with all the upgrades was way above skyfather level. He beat a few multiversal abstracts in consecutive stories in this period, and was at the height of his power and upgraded.Even in the resolution of the story, he suggested he wouldn't need the Entropy Aegis' help against the Linear Men and the Quintessence if they decided to fight him. A group of time travelers and manipulators and 5 skyfather + beings.
Odin meanwhile, is below Galactus these days, who at the height of his anger showed the ability to wipe out 3 star systems.
Which is damn impressive, but nothing for a guy that's Sundipped, and powered up by the embodiment of the multiverse and shit.
Gtfoh.
Good post, you made a great case..
Superman unamped by sundip was treating solid trans at least probes like fodder.
Originally posted by Diesldude
Good post, you made a great case..Superman unamped by sundip was treating solid trans at least probes like fodder.
And since Superman's powers aren't dynamic according to carter and numerous other Marvel Zombies, Superman must be at least very high-end Above Top-Tier, if not low Skyfather, without a Sun-Dip!! 😱 I'm thinking Sun-Dipped OWAW Superman would melt WB Hulk, just being around him. 😖hifty:
Originally posted by carver9
Superman powers are not dynamic.
You're kidding right? Do you even know the meaning of the word?
Able to move you're body so fast that you become intangible is dynamic, able to use you're Heat Vision from space, bounce it off and write something is dynamic. Able to use you're freeze breath to destabilize a ghost is dynamic, able to augment you're voice pattern to different frequencies is dynamic usage.
