Originally posted by celeyhyga17Well, DC fans try to act like Superman's powers are consistently shown as dynamic. If superman was always portrayed as his followers suggest in Owaw we wouldn't have all these Owaw threads. It's rather easy to see all this and I am surprised they don't see it.
I dont think anyone is denying that.
Originally posted by PhilosophíaSo if I get the comics you won't accept the battlezone challenge of Thanos vs dcnu Darkseid. Wow. I own you.
Lately, I've been starting to pile up my ignore list - starting with quanchi, celyphaga, stupiditywarper etc.It's the only way to browse this forum and actually have fun.
Originally posted by carver9Lol, so now you just ignore the scans presented which explicitly TELL US that Superman's powers are dynamic? Nope, not going to let you off that easy:
Pretty much. The picking and choosing is ridiculous. I wonder what they'll say Superman will have next month.
(It's from AoS #636 if you care to look for yourself, since you read so many comics.) 🙂
You're trolling harder than normal lately. Just stop. 👆
Originally posted by Philosophía
Lately, I've been starting to pile up my ignore list - starting with quanchi, celyphaga, stupiditywarper etc.It's the only way to browse this forum and actually have fun.
Why dont you just join a Superman forum then?
I seen you complain many times about who you are think trolls and that that this site will be a better more enjoyable place if the mods would get rid of/ban like 70% of the people that post here.
I seriously dont know why you put yourself through such torture of reading post from people that dont heavily favor your favorite characters. Why not just get rid of all conflicting opinions am I right? The solution is easy as I stated on my opening sentence.
Are you talking to me ? So according to two writers ? A few scans. This is just sad. I am not saying these scans don't exist I'm saying this is in the minority of his history. The fact you don't get it by my selective showings the other way is kind of sad. Tbh. You're kind of emotional today. Just calm down, buddy. Opinions vary and it isn't just me. Just because Hulk went all out in HOTM do we ignore all other showings since one writer said he didn't go all out until that scene. 😉
Originally posted by celeyhyga17
I understand his power fluctuates based on mental state. That much is clear. But his showings are different from writer to writer, artist to artist, and story arc to story arc... Even when he is in a mental state that parallels different instances be it holding back, going all out, or something in the middle. That's the nature of comics.
It's established canon, concretely. Arguing writers don't always use it does not override the clear canon. It would be similar to arguing Thor doesn't have an obscure Mjolnir power because he's only used it like once. Him being very unlikely to use it doesn't mean he doesn't have it.
Originally posted by quanchi112No.
Are you talking to me ?
However, Superman's powers have always fluctuated in accordance with his mindset/needs. Rucka simply gave us a 'scientific' explanation as to WHY this happens. His powers are dynamic. You and carv can keep the blinders on if it makes you feel better, but it is the truth--truth that can be proven over decades of showings.
Comic book writers >>> quan+carv. 👆
Originally posted by InhumanWhat does my character preference have to do with the fact that the current state of the forum is a troll free-for all no-punishment unless you go totally off the rails shitfest?
Why dont you just join a Superman forum then?
In a forum with solid rules, and argument-based discussions, 80% of the Marvel fans on this forum wouldn't last a week.
As it is, we have carver saying the same bullshit, for years, getting refuted again, and again, and again, told to stop every once in a while, with no effect.
The actvitiy and give-o-shit meter of older posters should tell you enough about the current opinion of actual intelligent posters about the forum.
Originally posted by InhumanOr, if they would actually punish the trolls and spammers. If they wouldn't let the same discussion go over and over again, even when it's obvious that the posters in question [quanchi, carver and a few more] are saying the same shit, everytime, just to get a rile out of people, out of fans of certain characters, maybe some actual rational discussion would take place.
I seen you complain many times about who you are think trolls and that that this site will be a better more enjoyable place if the mods would get rid of/ban like 70% of the people that post here.
High hopes, I know, right?
Originally posted by Galan007
No.However, Superman's powers have always fluctuated in accordance with his mindset/needs. Rucka simply gave us a 'scientific' explanation as to WHY this happens. His powers are dynamic. You and carv can keep the blinders on if it makes you feel better, but it is the truth--truth that can be proven over decades of showings.
Comic book writers >>> quan+carv. 👆
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/16479425/activebrain.jpg.html
Just a few recent examples.
Supergirl was literally dying from holding back herself.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Superman suppressed his power and remained powerless for a whole year because he didn't want the power. As soon as he wanted it? It came back.Another example where Superman is dying just because he thought he had no powers.
In addition, we have Batman stating that Superman subconsciously suppresses his powers. There's a couple examples of him distracted and doing poorly against an energy drainer, then when he's focused, he owns(one in a rematch, the other, a bit more complicated and unusual, but basically during the fight).
There's numerous hints during DEATH OF SUPERMAN about Superman's powers being dynamic, although a secondary source, it's confirmed in the novelization, and for those who will nitpick, was much more clear when Loeb referenced it during the Mongul training. Which itself has several direct and implied.
He lost his powers because he thought he was normal under Byrne, and regained them when he thought he was Darkseid's son and got power from him.
It was abundantly clear his powers were fluctuating in OWAW, especially when tearing through Imperiex Probes like paper, and the narration made it clear they were just as powerful as the ones he faced before, but he moved to another level.
I could give a couple examples of writers directly saying his powers are dynamic, but the haters will of course point to the rule.
I could show this stuff, but feel it'd be wasted. As those who'd pay attention I'd be preaching to the choir, and those who argue against it will refuse to accept evidence.
I really don't have a problem with saying Superman has mental blocks. We saw this when he fought Blackrock. He does have blocks, not just that but his own code f*cks him over to the point of it being outright just worse for the world. He was going to let some mystical demons shred him to pieces one time because he thought he could only defeat them by killing them. So next time Metropolis is under attack and a kid asks where is Superman..well Johnny, he's dead because he didn't want to kill a mystical demon.
But anyways, even if you cast a magic "unblock every single mental block you have" spell on him he'd still be a gnat to universal cosmic beings. That sentence I just typed? Should not of been a sentence that actually needed to be typed out for people.
