Safe Spaces

Originally posted by Bardock42
So, we all really have a problem with what amounts to a club or proprietor of private space not tolerating certain language or aggression?

I mean, seriously, you guys need to grow up, be less sensitive, and realise that in life, as an adult you don't get to spout your infantile opinions everywhere you want. You are whiny as ****.

Because a hug box is ultimately not a healthy environment, and supporting this idea that encourages people to stick their fingers in their ears when they hear something they don't like is infantile.

Originally posted by Bardock42
So, we all really have a problem with what amounts to a club or proprietor of private space not tolerating certain language or aggression?

I mean, seriously, you guys need to grow up, be less sensitive, and realise that in life, as an adult you don't get to spout your infantile opinions everywhere you want. You are whiny as ****.

Originally posted by Bardock42
So, we all really have a problem with what amounts to a club or proprietor of private space not tolerating certain language or aggression?

I mean, seriously, you guys need to grow up, be less sensitive, and realise that in life, as an adult you don't get to spout your infantile opinions everywhere you want. You are whiny as ****.

Just wow, the irony of you calling out others for being too sensitive and acting like infants when the entire safe space thing is infantile is..well, that is something.

I mean your entire post sounded like one big "waaaaah" and you call others whiny.

But let me ask you something then about safe spaces in colleges. So what should they be? For example, the library sounds like an ideal space for a safe space, right? Wouldn't you agree? I mean a library is where all the book learning should be going down, right? So would you be for them making it so you can't have any obnoxious behavior in a library? Or how about anywhere on campus, no overly obnoxious behavior? Of course protests of any kind could be considered as such, so more of those on college campuses then, right?

Originally posted by Bardock42
So, we all really have a problem with what amounts to a club or proprietor of private space not tolerating certain language or aggression?

I mean, seriously, you guys need to grow up, be less sensitive, and realise that in life, as an adult you don't get to spout your infantile opinions everywhere you want. You are whiny as ****.

Actually, no.

Yale and Harvard are "non profits", so the private property exuse doesn't really fly.. They're not Starbucks or McDonalds, but a place taking public money on top of their huge endowments.

But even so, my real problem isn't with them. It's with the University of Missouri. The protestors there AND professors claimed the right of "safe spaces" to keep reporters and photo-journalists from doing their jobs, and blocked any other students from.approaching the area.

This is a publically funded community college, and there's laws on the books that designates their grounds as a public space, just like a town green. Staking d exclusive rights to that property in the name of safe spaces is simply ridiculous (And a professor blocking off the press is unacceptable behavior at a journalism school!)

Originally posted by Bardock42
So, we all really have a problem with what amounts to a club or proprietor of private space not tolerating certain language or aggression?

I mean, seriously, you guys need to grow up, be less sensitive, and realise that in life, as an adult you don't get to spout your infantile opinions everywhere you want. You are whiny as ****.

Originally posted by Robtard
#gottem

You realize he is insulting people by saying they are too sensitive..in a topic that is about students being overly sensitive. How this equates to "getting" anyone is beyond me, but hey you do you.

Originally posted by Q99
People normally do their best without distractions, and that can help arm and prepare them for when they go into the wilder world.

The wilder world is not distraction-free. Insulating students from that does exactly the opposite.

Originally posted by Q99
Still, I do think it's generally a good idea to, say, give heads-up warnings when going into sensitive subjects. Not a banning of 'em, just disclaimers and such can help people be more comfortable.

Again, life does not come with trigger warnings. No one is going to get a heads-up disclaimer in real life. Students need to get stronger, not be more comfortable.

I mean isn't college supposed to prepare people for the real world and not coddle them like little infants who have the same disease that Mr. Glass from "Unbreakable" had?

Originally posted by cdtm
But even so, my real problem isn't with them. It's with the University of Missouri. The protestors there AND professors claimed the right of "safe spaces" to keep reporters and photo-journalists from doing their jobs, and blocked any other students from.approaching the area.

And they did it by using force/threats on those people that didn't believe in their cause <Safe Zone.> 🙄

Originally posted by Bardock42
So, we all really have a problem with what amounts to a club or proprietor of private space not tolerating certain language or aggression?

I mean, seriously, you guys need to grow up, be less sensitive, and realise that in life, as an adult you don't get to spout your infantile opinions everywhere you want. You are whiny as ****.

If opinions shouldn't be stated in public anyways they should be banned from internet or any public forum, I see no need of building any particular rules in that regard attached to a place. The existence of these "safe places" is a concession of intelligence towards brutality.

Because stupid goes both ways and people could make excuses to make arbitrary rules in their "private places" and then I could have a problem with that.

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
The wilder world is not distraction-free. Insulating students from that does exactly the opposite.

Again, life does not come with trigger warnings. No one is going to get a heads-up disclaimer in real life. Students need to get stronger, not be more comfortable.

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
The wilder world is not distraction-free. Insulating students from that does exactly the opposite.

Again, life does not come with trigger warnings. No one is going to get a heads-up disclaimer in real life. Students need to get stronger, not be more comfortable.

Unless you're an upper level administrator at a university.

I've worked jobs at Yale, and believe me, the men and women working corporate live in a different world. I've seen a few women chew out an intern for petty garbage like accepting a slice of pizza at an office party, because it goes outside the bounds of their perfectly ordered world..

Originally posted by Bardock42
So, we all really have a problem with what amounts to a club or proprietor of private space not tolerating certain language or aggression?

I mean, seriously, you guys need to grow up, be less sensitive, and realise that in life, as an adult you don't get to spout your infantile opinions everywhere you want. You are whiny as ****.

I have no problem with people turning their own private spaces into 'safe spaces', but please stay the hell away from public spaces and public institutions.

Also I actually disagree with the notion that this is mostly about being polite. Sure its preferable if someone is cordial instead of rude, but on the other hand I think an adult who can't handle someone being impolite falls into the range of being genuinely mentally unstable. I think there is a world of difference between being impolite and actually being disruptive. Which actually being disruptive usually isn't tolerated either so you shouldn't need a special place for it. That to me is like having a "detention free" zone in high school.

Then I would also ask how people would intend to enforce these "safe spaces"? If someone behaves in a way deemed rude, what should be done? Should security be called to escort someone away for being rude?

And there's the point of it.

Administrator's can only do so much. Demanding apologies, or worse for someone to step down, due to things they can't control is NOT a reasonable protest. It's a power play.

The Yalie screaming at the student life administrator because he refused to shut up and do as he's told is an example of this. Why SHOULD he apologize? How is it his fault, if there's some privileged racist douches on campus?

He definately does have a job to do, but acting like some kind of high paid slave to student whims shouldn't be one of them.

I'm 29, so I'm not super far removed from my college days, but I seriously don't know where kids get this insane sensitivity and sense of entitlement from. When I was in college, just a few years ago, free speech was the most important thing, and what everyone fought for.

The fact that kids now want everyone's language, combed through and censored, to fit their idealized vision of society is crazy to me.

Originally posted by Khazra Reborn
I'm 29, so I'm not super far removed from my college days, but I seriously don't know where kids get this insane sensitivity and sense of entitlement from. When I was in college, just a few years ago, free speech was the most important thing, and what everyone fought for.

The fact that kids now want everyone's language, combed through and censored, to fit their idealized vision of society is crazy to me.

I can't help but wonder how much of this outrage is genuine, and how much of it is exploitative of the way media operates.

Which is in the "yellow" way. Sensationalism sells. Controversey brings in the viewers/readers.

There's actually quite a bit of protest against safe spaces, from within activist communities. But, no one's reporting on that.

Originally posted by Khazra Reborn
I'm 29, so I'm not super far removed from my college days, but I seriously don't know where kids get this insane sensitivity and sense of entitlement from. When I was in college, just a few years ago, free speech was the most important thing, and what everyone fought for.

The fact that kids now want everyone's language, combed through and censored, to fit their idealized vision of society is crazy to me.

This is a relatively recent thing. If you went to college 10 years ago, chances are you didn't really encounter it.

Originally posted by Khazra Reborn
I'm 29, so I'm not super far removed from my college days, but I seriously don't know where kids get this insane sensitivity and sense of entitlement from.

Their parents.

I just think at the end of the day you aren't ready to handle the real world if you need a "safe space". Just take an online course if you're such a delicate flower.