Originally posted by Surtur
I'm saying anytime Superman fights a universal entity and wins? It's bullshit.
👆 I think this, too. Superman is a guy who hangs out on a team with GL, Flash, WW, MM etc. He's no universal entity.
Bear in mind, though, that comic writers don;t give two shits about battleboards, lol. One day, three Beyonders are slaughtering the LT - and the next, Thor is decimating hundreds.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Plot device....like a sundip/Kismet/'letting loose'?
This isn't the case of Superman just suddenly beating a multiversal entity.
This is Superman receiving the power of Kismet, another character, and then beating said entity.
Originally posted by Galan007
Imperiex doesn't have a mind, per se. He is pure energy--sentient energy, but energy nonetheless.So if you can provide evidence which depicts Odin mind-raping a conceptual energy-being who operates on a universal scale, then I suppose it *might* be an option for him.
Well, Galactus is an energy being and Odin was able to at least make an attempt at psionic attack (Galactus was able to resist ultimately however)...
Of course, Galactus also has feats of resisting psionic attack as well...does Imperiex?
Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Well, Galactus is an energy being and Odin was able to at least make an attempt at psionic attack (Galactus was able to resist ultimately however)...Of course, Galactus also has feats of resisting psionic attack as well...does Imperiex?
But Galactus is still a living entity, where as Imperiex is just pure energy.
Originally posted by TheLordofMurderSo the best psi feat Odin has is trying, and failing, to mind-rape a sentience that isn't nearly as vast as Imperiex?
Well, Galactus is an energy being and Odin was able to at least make an attempt at psionic attack (Galactus was able to resist ultimately however)...Of course, Galactus also has feats of resisting psionic attack as well...does Imperiex?
Originally posted by krisblazeOh, I'm not saying Galactus' mind isn't uber. I'm merely saying that the essence of Imperiex is far more vast. He is a universal+ entity, who operates on an "omni-temporal" scale.
Well, we know that Xavier needed to pull some pretty heavy stuff in order to just communicate with Galactus.
He is the literal embodiment of Entropy and rebirth.
^ Evidently you've been getting it wrong this entire time. Superman received 3 separate power-ups during OWAW.
1.) Merging with Kismet, which allowed him to breach Imperiex's armor.
2.) Entering a bloodlusted/unrestrained mindset, which allowed him to shred through Imperiex Probes.
3.) Receiving a formal sun-dip(in conjunction with the aforementioned mindset), which enabled him to own/melt B13 drones like fodder, push Warworld, etc.
None of which are the 'standard' level for Superman.